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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Ruin II used to be the same potency as Broil, but had double the MP cost. This made it effective for weaving purposes, but not ideal for spamming and was a healthy way for SCH to address mobility. You felt mobile, but there was a soft limit to your ability to do so. It was also a unique way to address mobility and weaving rather than just making Broil have a 1.5 second cast time that had a bit more flavor and feel to it, even if fairly small. I can't really fathom not wanting that over the current Ruin II feeling more inconsequential than it's ever felt before and still taking a DPS tax.
    I think MP limiting comfort tools is a much better solution in general. It gives you a softcap and you can decide for your own how to use it and good players will always try to avoid so they can go for higher dps sets with risky MP economy. Aoe GCD heals, mobility and weaving tools can be spammable in theory but with high MP cost tacked on so that you'll definitely feel it if you rely too much on comfort tools instead of utilizing your whole toolkit and playing more efficiently.
    It won't punish you the first time you use. Nor the second. But if you keep using them too liberally, you'll pay for it and it sends a message without making it impossible to deal with unforseen circumstances.
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    Noah Orih
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    I think MP limiting comfort tools is a much better solution in general. It gives you a softcap and you can decide for your own how to use it and good players will always try to avoid so they can go for higher dps sets with risky MP economy. Aoe GCD heals, mobility and weaving tools can be spammable in theory but with high MP cost tacked on so that you'll definitely feel it if you rely too much on comfort tools instead of utilizing your whole toolkit and playing more efficiently.
    It won't punish you the first time you use. Nor the second. But if you keep using them too liberally, you'll pay for it and it sends a message without making it impossible to deal with unforseen circumstances.
    And to add to that, having ways to get your MP back at an opportunity cost if you've gone too far can help those jobs still feel forgiving--that if you do overextend, you're not going to push yourself into a healing deficit.
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