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  1. #211
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    Garten's Avatar
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    Garten Rei
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    I would like Hair Chest.. i am half a cat and don't even have a little on my chest T_T
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  2. #212
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    Klaus Ellesair
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I don't really know what relevance the billboard has here, but I will say I have a pretty good idea what turns a lot of players away, or stops many from trying. At least in the west. It's the aesthetic. Lalafell is more of a meme within the community, from outside of the community, I will see more disdain for miqo'te or "catgirls" actually. People call this a "weeb" game, etc. etc. So this thread has a lot of merits, in that a lot of players, and potential players, in the west, do want more handsome, masculine options for the game. They also want armor more in the style of WoW, or I should rephrase: bulky, "cool", etc..
    I felt like the new savage armor was more in line with WoW's armor themes. I wondered if it was something they decided to do for the influx of new WoW players. I don't mind the armor, but I hope we're not going in this direction full-time.
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  3. #213
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    Orisic Yarze
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 90
    As a female roe player, I am in constant suffering when the modelers spend 3 months perfecting every physics feature on catgirls and lalas but our hair literally clips through our breasts if they're too big and the blocky hip to shoulder ratio makes so many glamours look like they just took the model, enlarged it, and slapped it on a plank of wood. Even if they added any of this, they'd get no support whatsoever. Glamours would look subpar and I swear the only reason we even get Roegadyn NPCs most of the time is because it was an afterthought.
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  4. #214
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by TofuPenguin View Post
    I felt like the new savage armor was more in line with WoW's armor themes. I wondered if it was something they decided to do for the influx of new WoW players. I don't mind the armor, but I hope we're not going in this direction full-time.
    I don't personally like the really bulky stuff, from WoW. They look very cartoonish to me (that is kind of the WoW aesthetic though). I know a certain amount of other players really like that aesthetic, like I had been saying. Some players said that the last PvP season's armor set (Archfiend) looked like something from WoW, like the Lich King. Supposedly.

    I personally think a male character looks a lot nicer in well designed sets, both fantastical, and more "realistic", but not overly ridiculous. I do have quite a bias. I prefer more masculine and good looking male characters, in nicely accented and designed armors for the most part. If I could do art, I know I would have a lot of ideas I could show. Heavily exaggerated just isn't my cup of tea.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 09-08-2022 at 01:55 AM.
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  5. #215
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSuperior View Post
    As a female roe player, I am in constant suffering when the modelers spend 3 months perfecting every physics feature on catgirls and lalas but our hair literally clips through our breasts if they're too big and the blocky hip to shoulder ratio makes so many glamours look like they just took the model, enlarged it, and slapped it on a plank of wood. Even if they added any of this, they'd get no support whatsoever. Glamours would look subpar and I swear the only reason we even get Roegadyn NPCs most of the time is because it was an afterthought.
    I said it before and I'll say it again, Roegadyn aren't what people who like big races like, they're what people who don't like big races think people who like them like. Hrothgar are overall in a worst condition, but hey, at least I have a waistline now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

  6. #216
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    Orisic Yarze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I said it before and I'll say it again, Roegadyn aren't what people who like big races like, they're what people who don't like big races think people who like them like. Hrothgar are overall in a worst condition, but hey, at least I have a waistline now.
    That's a good way to put it. I like tall girls, I like their unconventional beauty, but I hate how limited my options are when I want to dress my WoL in something new and oops, the model at the chest is tearing apart like a mod someone whipped up.

    Actual gear, the same quality as a gear mod. You know, the stuff that's supposed to be shoddy because it's a hobby work.
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  7. #217
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    Ruko Sunko
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    Moogle
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I wish the game had more masculine hairstyles, or that the unisex haircut they are adding would lean more toward something a man would wear.
    I like ponytail, but the options they added recently really looks more like girl haircut.
    I think it's great to propose unisex hairstyle, but they should had more variety to what gets added, even if it isn't really made for girls in mind.
    Having more masculine hairstyles would also create more tomboyish options for female characters.
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  8. #218
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSuperior View Post
    As a female roe player, I am in constant suffering when the modelers spend 3 months perfecting every physics feature on catgirls and lalas but our hair literally clips through our breasts if they're too big and the blocky hip to shoulder ratio makes so many glamours look like they just took the model, enlarged it, and slapped it on a plank of wood. Even if they added any of this, they'd get no support whatsoever. Glamours would look subpar and I swear the only reason we even get Roegadyn NPCs most of the time is because it was an afterthought.
    I was a male Roe before going Hrothgar. I loved my Roegadyn. Making glamours for him was an absolute pain. I like to think it worked out because I got approached by Zepla once and she complimented my Machinist glam mid-stream (; _ ; thanks sis), but good bloody lord the experience is horrid. Do you guys have any idea how easily Roegadyn turn into Brunnhilde singing the opera when wearing any plate armour?! It's clear that Square treats Roegadyn like a meme race, when they really shouldn't.

    Hrothgar at least can make more stuff work, but we're missing headgear anyway, and stuff clips through my mane. But I knew what I would get myself into when I chose to go lion at least. I was not expecting my waistline to be inexistant as a Roegadyn.

    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I said it before and I'll say it again, Roegadyn aren't what people who like big races like, they're what people who don't like big races think people who like them like. Hrothgar are overall in a worst condition, but hey, at least I have a waistline now.
    Yee, Roegadyn are too stereotypical for their own good. They're too easily memed and often are picked for caricatures. They're what people think men who are into bara like about bara.
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  9. #219
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    I was a male Roe before going Hrothgar. I loved my Roegadyn. Making glamours for him was an absolute pain. I like to think it worked out because I got approached by Zepla once and she complimented my Machinist glam mid-stream (; _ ; thanks sis), but good bloody lord the experience is horrid. Do you guys have any idea how easily Roegadyn turn into Brunnhilde singing the opera when wearing any plate armour?! It's clear that Square treats Roegadyn like a meme race, when they really shouldn't.

    Hrothgar at least can make more stuff work, but we're missing headgear anyway, and stuff clips through my mane. But I knew what I would get myself into when I chose to go lion at least. I was not expecting my waistline to be inexistant as a Roegadyn.



    Yee, Roegadyn are too stereotypical for their own good. They're too easily memed and often are picked for caricatures. They're what people think men who are into bara like about bara.
    And Hrothgar are also memed being the furry large bara cat daddies you constantly see online. I still prefer roes over hroth as they at least dont hunch over.
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  10. #220
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    And Hrothgar are also memed being the furry large bara cat daddies you constantly see online. I still prefer roes over hroth as they at least dont hunch over.
    Not as much

    Especially not in-game. Hrothgar NPCs are usually portrayed as either really cute, stern or valorous. Roegadyn are memed way too often, even now. Proof? Try our emotes, you'll see.

    Try saying that when we have something like Mr. Face as a Hrothgar.

    also, why do you think we keep asking Square to remove the hunchback, believe me, not even we like looking like we're constipated all the time...

    Square should honestly look into it, since a lot of people have already manifested their displeasure at the hunch. At least make it a toggleable option. (Yes, it's edited >.> Atelier has the original one anyway, so it's not like I'm hiding what I wrote, just that I know people will jump on this and the mods aren't in the mood to read through the lines).
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    Last edited by Midareyukki; 09-17-2022 at 12:30 PM.

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