Tales from the Dawn #4: "A Question of Death" (Jullus)

[Lauront]

Pretty sure he's talking about reserve in the New World. Why would this guy worry about reserves an continent away with an ocean between them. Getting way ahead of yourself and reaching really hard.

Of course he's talking about the New World. The point is he is flatly contradicting your comment that I quoted, i.e. that none but the Garleans have an interest in ceruleum. If anyone is reaching here, it is none other than you.

[thegreatonemal]

Of course he's talking about the New World. The point is he is flatly contradicting your comment that I quoted. If anyone is reaching here, it is none other than you.

Considering we were talking about the Garlean stores of the resource I'd thought it plain the context. I had forgotten how literal you try to be when you make massive leaps to argue. So I will specify. Nobody cares about taking the Garlean stores. How do we know this. 800 years of them being there and nobody being interested in it. With the advent of magitek? Still no interest to go invading to take it. Magitek is the Garlean answer to magic.

You're libel to pull something at this rate.

[Lauront]

Considering we were talking about the Garlean stores of the resource I'd thought it plain the context. I had forgotten how literal you try to be when you make massive leaps to argue. So I will specify. Nobody cares about taking the Garlean stores. How do we know this. 800 years of them being there and nobody being interested in it. With the advent of magitek? Still no interest to go invading to take it. Magitek is the Garlean answer to magic.

You're libel to pull something at this rate.

... you do realise that all that changed with the advent of magitek, right? Try reading the text I quoted. Feel free to die on the hill you're already languishing upon. I've little interested in expending further posts on correcting your persistent misapprehensions.

The Garleans trying to rebuild at Broken Glass have the cerulean to rebuild -and worry about the profits going to them and not Ul’dah. Which is the same issues brought up in the Stormblood patches when Nanamo conferred with Lolorito and Godbert, only swapping out Ala Mhigo and salt.

In case it's not clear what the context is for all this:

I feel like in order to be appealing targets for invasion, the Garleans need to not only be weak, but also have a resource that is worth going to war for.

Which was followed up by:

Ceruleum is currently employed by all major nations for everything from lighting to cooking, and the gradual adoption of magitek as a whole is very likely to expand that demand even further. Heck, Ishgard is about to start rocking magitek heaters. Cid's been working in Eorzea for a while, and now the Garleans themselves are pretty likely to share technology as a means of remaining useful.

To which mal responded with the quote I included in my post.

The point is Garlemald has a resource that could theoretically make it a target for future hostiles, thus meeting the criterion laid out in Kari's post.

But yes, what you mention could plausibly be taken as a concern for the Garleans too.

[AwesomeJr44]

... you do realise that all that changed with the advent of magitek, right? Try reading the text I quoted. Feel free to die on the hill you're already languishing upon. I've little interested in expending further posts on correcting your persistent misapprehensions.

The hill he's on is where his oat stash is buried. Of course he's gonna die on it.

[thegreatonemal]

... you do realise that all that changed with the advent of magitek, right? Try reading the text I quoted. Feel free to die on the hill you're already languishing upon. I've little interested in expending further posts on correcting your persistent misapprehensions.

The Garleans changed their use of it and through Cid and the ironworks other people have used a bit of it but there is no indication that anybody is making drastic changes.
Maybe just stop trying to reach so hard. You do it with nearly every topic and its getting rather tiring. Please come up with something new.

[Theodric]

The Garleans changed their use of it and through Cid and the ironworks other people have used a bit of it but there is no indication that anybody is making drastic changes.
Maybe just stop trying to reach so hard. You do it with nearly every topic and its getting rather tiring. Please come up with something new.

He's one of the posters who actually compiles and posts sources - so no, he isn't 'reaching'. He's offering clarification and outlining what is actually the case as per the game's established narrative.

Though this is little more than the usual thing that certain posters like to do in regards to making a claim that is then countered by actual sources and then rather than admit to being mistaken the poster(s) providing the clarification are then attacked and insulted in an effort to deflect.

[thegreatonemal]

He's one of the posters who actually compiles and posts sources - so no, he isn't 'reaching'. He's offering clarification and outlining what is actually the case as per the game's established narrative.

Though this is little more than the usual thing that certain posters like to do in regards to making a claim that is then countered by actual sources and then rather than admit to being mistaken the poster(s) providing the clarification are then attacked and insulted in an effort to deflect.

Usually from the french translation for some reason. Given the link he did post, he is reaching, quite a bit based on the narrative being told. One guy from a across the sea liking the the potential of the resource, does not imply a willingness to take said resource from other people when said resource is readily available in his homeland and from his current employer.

[Theodric]

Usually from the french translation for some reason. Given the link he did post, he is reaching, quite a bit based on the narrative being told. One guy from a across the sea liking the the potential of the resource, does not imply a willingness to take said resource from other people when said resource is readily available in his homeland and from his current employer.

Many of us posting here are European and are multilingual. We either play the game in French, English or both. Plus we talk about the game's story with players who play the game in French, English or both.

I don't recall seeing you or anyone else criticise or question the likes of the Anonymoose whenever he took the time to share translations from other language versions of the game as part of a discussion or debate.