Page 1 of 13 1 2 3 11 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 177

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Vyrerus's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    The Interdimensional Rift
    Posts
    3,600
    Character
    Vicious Zvahl
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100

    Tales from the Dawn #4: "A Question of Death" (Jullus)

    A Question of Death

    Sobering. Most interesting to me were the Garlean wives' names.

    I also found that the writing piece inspires resolve. It seems pretty clear cut.

    Your thoughts?
    (12)

    (Signature portrait by Amaipetisu)

    "I thought that my invincible power would hold the world captive, leaving me in a freedom undisturbed. Thus night and day I worked at the chain with huge fires and cruel hard strokes. When at last the work was done and the links were complete and unbreakable, I found that it held me in its grip." - Rabindranath Tagore

  2. #2
    Player Theodric's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    10,051
    Character
    Matthieu Desrosiers
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Hah, I won a bet with a friend! I had a hunch that at least one of the stories would revolve around Garlemald and specifically Jullus. I'm glad we finally learned more names of prominent Garlean lore figures.

    I enjoyed the story. Garlemald's always been one of the more interesting aspects of the setting to me for various reasons.

    It's great to see the story end on a bittersweet but hopeful note - the surviving Garleans will carve a place for themselves within Etheirys one way or another. It'll be interesting to see where the dangling plot thread of Jullus working with Alisae and Alphinaud leads when the MSQ's pick that up again.
    (9)

  3. #3
    Player
    Lurina's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Posts
    334
    Character
    Floria Aerinus
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Pretty good! I feel like I find the way EW advocates coping with loss to be just a little immature - showing disinterest in what the actual feelings of the now-dead were in favor of conceptualizing them as having died for and living on though you feels like a decent coping mechanism, but might be be so great in terms of further developing empathy and learning to look the complex tragedies of the world in the eye. Still, it's a sweet story all the same that'll probably touch a lot of people.

    Sounds like a lot of the Garlean government is still intact in the provinces, as you'd expect with just the capital getting blown up. Even if the Empire is finished, it doesn't seem like we're done dealing with its legacy.
    (13)
    Last edited by Lurina; 09-16-2022 at 05:53 PM.

  4. #4
    Player
    Lauront's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Location
    Amaurot
    Posts
    4,449
    Character
    Tristain Archambeau
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Probably the story I enjoyed the most of the batch. I'm glad they fleshed out some aspects of life in Garlemald prior to its fall, like the entry on Unity Day, the make-up of the imperial family, the tidbits about Solus as emperor, the contrast between the two strains of the family, and how Jullus reflected on Zenos's senseless act of destruction, as well as describing his own personal tragedy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lurina View Post
    Pretty good! I feel like I find the way EW advocates coping with loss to be just a little immature - showing disinterest in what the actual feelings of the now-dead were in favor of conceptualizing them as having died for and living on though you feels like a decent coping mechanism, but might be be so great in terms of further developing empathy and learning to look the complex tragedies of the world in the eye. Still, it's a sweet story all the same that'll probably touch a lot of people.

    Sounds like a lot of the Garlean government is still intact in the provinces, as you'd expect with just the capital getting blown up. Even if the Empire is finished, it doesn't seem like we're done dealing with its legacy.
    Yeah, agreed, even if I liked the final touch of the elegy and I do find the sentiment moving in its own way. The world is a bit strange, in the sense that the 'dead' will eventually be with you in some sense or other given its soul resurrection mechanism, itself described as agnostic to vice or virtue in its workings, but even so there is still death in the sense that the person those surviving the death knew is now gone for good, and certainly once the Aetherial Sea has worked its powerwash "magic".

    I'd like to say this mentality makes some manner of sense for the Garleans, because of their history of persecution as a result of their general inability to manipulate aether and thus, their mindset of being against the entire world, and their answer to avoiding further persecution being to retain a position of unassailable strength, such as that which an empire could provide, even if it meant thereby becoming the aggressors; I think the below quote sums up their driving mindset well, whether one takes it as rooted in their history, a founding mythos or, as is probably the case, a bit of both. So it helps form a type of strength that lets them cope with the sheer amount of bloodshed they no doubt endured to find a foothold as a kind of fertiliser for the well-being of their future generations, and show a kind of posthumous gratitude to the sacrifices of the departed. Equally it is not exactly an approach that is conducive to empathy so much as pressing forward to get the (bloody) job done. It's great for the purposes of steeling resolve when there's less time to stop and think about it and when there's wars to be won and plenty of (arguably) senseless death that accompanies it, but ultimately it doesn't undo the tragedy involved upon further reflection and, yes, even encourage one to stop short of that.

    They led us to greatness. We who formed the vanguard of history's grand march forward. His city was the heart of the world, through which flowed blood stronger than steel─a bond between countrymen that would remain unbroken even should their every enemy join together to oppose them. Glory be to Garlemald.
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It's great to see the story end on a bittersweet but hopeful note - the surviving Garleans will carve a place for themselves within Etheirys one way or another. It'll be interesting to see where the dangling plot thread of Jullus working with Alisae and Alphinaud leads when the MSQ's pick that up again.
    I do hope they touch upon those provinces where the Purebloods choose to make their new homeland(s) at a future juncture rather than just drop it. Especially since there was a mixture of attitudes towards the empire, depending on how the province was treated by it.
    (8)
    Last edited by Lauront; 09-17-2022 at 06:58 AM.
    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


  5. #5
    Player
    Cleretic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Location
    Solution Eight (it's not as good)
    Posts
    3,028
    Character
    Ein Dose
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 100
    Ooh, a story about an event we didn't already know about! I love it, and the Garleans were honestly the most compelling part of Endwalker's writing, so I'm always happy to see us go there. (Followed by sad at 'oh right, the entire civilization was ground into dust by a selfish fight idiot and a suicidal wizard-scientist').

    That glimpse of the photo says a whole lot without being definite about any of it; seems like none of the Royal Family was very happy at all even in their best days. And hey, a mention of the women of the royal family, that's vanishingly rare.

    Even with the dour tone of the story, there was a single point I had to laugh at, though.

    Why hello there, person we took the key from during In From the Cold. Didn't expect to see you here!


    EDIT: Something largely unrelated to the story, but struck me when thinking about events related to it and I'm stunned I didn't realize it before:

    The Garlean Empire named their main class of magitek walkers after their original vanguard of defenders.
    (9)
    Last edited by Cleretic; 09-16-2022 at 07:30 PM.

  6. #6
    Player
    Lurina's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Posts
    334
    Character
    Floria Aerinus
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    The Garlean Empire named their main class of magitek walkers after their original vanguard of defenders.
    ...oh, wow. That's really cute, actually.

    I kinda wonder if the writers did that on purpose or if they just used a cool name twice without making the connection, though.
    (9)

  7. #7
    Player
    Cleretic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Location
    Solution Eight (it's not as good)
    Posts
    3,028
    Character
    Ein Dose
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JeanneOrnitier View Post
    Man I really hope some patch content focuses on Garlemald, it's the only one of Endwalker's story hooks that isn't getting anything in the patches so far.

    Also, is Lucius being the name of Varis's father new? I know all the wives' names are.
    I suspect there is a plan to go there for more, because they've made noticeably little out of the fact that Alphinaud and Alisaie are there. They haven't turned up in this story or the all-roles capstone. (My guess is that they're the crafting tribe.)

    And yes, Lucius' name is new to us!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lurina View Post
    ...oh, wow. That's really cute, actually.

    I kinda wonder if the writers did that on purpose or if they just used a cool name twice without making the connection, though.
    My guess is 'a little from column A, a little from column B'; they probably had most of the idea for Reaper before then, and then the common name helped them connect it to Garlemald.
    (3)

  8. #8
    Player
    JeanneOrnitier's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    630
    Character
    Noa Kyrie
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    (My guess is that they're the crafting tribe.)
    That would make sense, though they'd probably be the most un-tribe-like tribal quest, lol.


    Here's a visual of the Galvus family tree:
    https://twitter.com/ritostime/status...97952171290624
    (1)
    Last edited by JeanneOrnitier; 09-16-2022 at 10:10 PM.

  9. #9
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    New Gridania
    Posts
    5,465
    Character
    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JeanneOrnitier View Post
    That would make sense, though they'd probably be the most un-tribe-like tribal quest, lol.


    Here's a visual of the Galvus family tree:
    https://twitter.com/ritostime/status...97952171290624
    It's possible they may not be a tribe, but be another Restoration area like Doma and Ishgard. PLEASE let this be the case.
    (4)

  10. #10
    Player
    KageTokage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Posts
    7,093
    Character
    Alijana Tumet
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    This story just makes me hope they'll delve into the political mess left in the wake of the empire's fall sooner then later with an issue in Ilsabard warranting our attention.

    Between the remaining Garlean legions and some manner of "great change" looming on the horizon, I can imagine all kinds of ways for things to go sideways.
    (8)

Page 1 of 13 1 2 3 11 ... LastLast