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  1. #131
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    Reimmi's Avatar
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    Nia Niyah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
    I'll absolutely believe that they'd make less of it if there were no cash shop, but I very much doubt they'd make none of it.
    I've heard most of the cash shop items are made for the chinese store not NA, we just get them later because there's no reason not to bring them over

    Something to do with chinese players not paying a sub and being more into microtransactions
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  2. #132
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    Raven2014's Avatar
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post

    As a hobby, gaming is incredibly cheap. You spend almost nothing.

    If I buy 2 Lego sets a year, it's more than I spend on XIV, by a long shot. Especially when it's the bigger sets.
    The relative cost to other medium is never the point. A sedan is still incredibly cheap car comparing to a Rolls Royce, but if Chevrolet ask 50k for their most basic trim Aveo that's still a rip off comparing to the half millions Rolls Royce. An overprice item is an overprice item, irregardless of other more expensive item.

    And the mog station is not only over-priced, but also limited to 1 character which itself is probably even a bigger rip off than the already high asking price.
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  3. #133
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    Hana Kaneuchi
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    Midgardsormr
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    I've spent probably thousands in the Mog Station on myself and giveaways.

    Mog Shop isn't for everyone. It's for people with extra income that like what they offer.
    Crying about it will never change it or stop the whales (me!) from spending.
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  4. #134
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bibitsa View Post
    We know that the mogstation is overpriced and predatory in a game with a subscription.
    Predatory implies take advantage of someone or heavily incentivizing they spend money. Regardless of your opinion towards the Mogstation, nothing on it provides any in-game advantage. You can literally ignore the entire store and lost out on nothing. Loot Boxes or games like Diablo are predatory due to locking aesthetics behind a RNG paywall or tying actual character progression to one. A predatory system would see that Pagaga emote people are wringing their hands over have a 5% drop rate from a crate you can purchase for $1 each. Don't believe me? Go look at actual F2P games like Black Desert or Blade & Soul. You'd spend significantly more on their aesthetics even after accounting for the subscription fee (they have one too) simply because their prices are higher, there's far less aesthetics in game to begin with or they're buried under layers of RNG.

    With FFXIV, you pay one price and get exactly what you want.

    Now I won't deny things are overpriced. They are. Which is why I opt not to buy them unless it's something I'm willing to splurge on. Nevertheless, there's a big difference between being overpriced and predatory.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantini View Post
    The problem that mogstation supporters don't want to see is that no one cares about ridiculous things like a cat set, but things like the pagaga emote.

    This emote has been requested throughout SHB since it first appeared. Everyone asked for it as a bozja reward, and they release it now on mogstation.

    You may not buy at will, there are 100 others who will buy and encourage the company. Soon, more and more items that could be in-game rewards will be in the store, in a game where you already pay a monthly fee.
    Everyone also asked for the Hellhound mount way back when. They stuffed it in PvP as the new top 100 reward. I'd hazard a guess a good number of people who wanted that mount would have preferred it going on the Mogstation.

    Putting the Pagaga emote in Bozja wouldn't necessary incentivize all that many people back into the content. Especially if it were sellable like everything else. Eureka has several rare mounts, minions and emotes yet people still don't bother all that much. Frankly, I think some people are overestimating how many people actually care about this emote.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  5. #135
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    Miyu Bubbles
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetness View Post
    quite honestly I’m not a fan of anything from the mog station.
    The costumes are just an easy way out for lazy people to make a glam imo
    It isn't like lv 1 glams are any better. Just as lazy.
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  6. #136
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    Buka Chu
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    shills will keep paying money so SE will keep re-adding those.
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  7. #137
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    Krokov Reynall
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    I'm not sure why it bothers anyone you get a set of glamor $22 or $18 depending on what you purchase. I mean there are other glamor sets that are $22 i.e. The Street attire set. The price of Glamours may not be everyone's cup of tea but if you want it go get it, if you don't then don't. I suppose if someone wants if someone wants an item on the mog station they'll do what they have to save up or otherwise and purchase the item.
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  8. #138
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    Mao Xifeng
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    I would happily pay cash for some of the glams on the Mogstation.....IF they were dyeable. Honestly, this putting out non dyeable outfits and doing likewise within the game itself is getting old and unwanted. Would it really kill SE to start making some of the gear in game and on the Mogstation, dyeable?
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  9. #139
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    Krokov Reynall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    I would happily pay cash for some of the glams on the Mogstation.....IF they were dyeable. Honestly, this putting out non dyeable outfits and doing likewise within the game itself is getting old and unwanted. Would it really kill SE to start making some of the gear in game and on the Mogstation, dyeable?
    Most of the gear on the Mog Station (FFXIV Online store) is dyable. From what I see the ones that aren't the are the character specific glam i.e. Thancred Lyse etc. However some character glams are dyable such as the Final Fantasy X ones.
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  10. #140
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    Shisen Akaitama
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krokov View Post
    Most of the gear on the Mog Station (FFXIV Online store) is dyable. From what I see the ones that aren't the are the character specific glam i.e. Thancred Lyse etc. However some character glams are dyable such as the Final Fantasy X ones.
    To give a non-online store example, the Wild Rose set isn't dyeable even though the rest of the Veteran rewards are and they're just as much "cosplay" gear as that one? The devs are just inconsistent as hell for whatever reason..
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    Last edited by Tsiron; 09-15-2022 at 05:15 PM.
    Glamour without restrictions* is long overdue!
    If you think so too, help keep the thread going!


    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/455359-We-really-should-be-able-to-glamour-other-jobs-sets

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