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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    The "just cosmetics" argument is complete nonsense. The biggest most sought after rewards in this game are all cosmetic in nature, ilvl holds very little value in the long term. Ultimate weapons, relics and savage gear are primarily useful as glams, savage mounts are purely cosmetic.
    Exactly right. FFXIV isn't at that point, but many games purposefully lock anything worthwhile behind the cash shop, lootboxes, premium battlepass, etc.. and thet get away with it, because it's "just cosmetic". For example, making anything attainable in-game of much less quality, or just plain ugly, to exacerbate the issue; to nudge players into the cash shop. Sometimes also providing enough "free" currency to get people into the cash shop, and cash in (literally in many cases) on the PR of this "free currency".

    Very similar to "pay for convenience". The devs have to purposefully make the game inconvenient to allow for "convenience" features.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 09-16-2022 at 12:44 AM.
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    Hana Kaneuchi
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    I've spent probably thousands in the Mog Station on myself and giveaways.

    Mog Shop isn't for everyone. It's for people with extra income that like what they offer.
    Crying about it will never change it or stop the whales (me!) from spending.
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    shills will keep paying money so SE will keep re-adding those.
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    Krokov Reynall
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    I'm not sure why it bothers anyone you get a set of glamor $22 or $18 depending on what you purchase. I mean there are other glamor sets that are $22 i.e. The Street attire set. The price of Glamours may not be everyone's cup of tea but if you want it go get it, if you don't then don't. I suppose if someone wants if someone wants an item on the mog station they'll do what they have to save up or otherwise and purchase the item.
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    I would happily pay cash for some of the glams on the Mogstation.....IF they were dyeable. Honestly, this putting out non dyeable outfits and doing likewise within the game itself is getting old and unwanted. Would it really kill SE to start making some of the gear in game and on the Mogstation, dyeable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    I would happily pay cash for some of the glams on the Mogstation.....IF they were dyeable. Honestly, this putting out non dyeable outfits and doing likewise within the game itself is getting old and unwanted. Would it really kill SE to start making some of the gear in game and on the Mogstation, dyeable?
    Most of the gear on the Mog Station (FFXIV Online store) is dyable. From what I see the ones that aren't the are the character specific glam i.e. Thancred Lyse etc. However some character glams are dyable such as the Final Fantasy X ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krokov View Post
    Most of the gear on the Mog Station (FFXIV Online store) is dyable. From what I see the ones that aren't the are the character specific glam i.e. Thancred Lyse etc. However some character glams are dyable such as the Final Fantasy X ones.
    To give a non-online store example, the Wild Rose set isn't dyeable even though the rest of the Veteran rewards are and they're just as much "cosplay" gear as that one? The devs are just inconsistent as hell for whatever reason..
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    Last edited by Tsiron; 09-15-2022 at 05:15 PM.
    Glamour without restrictions* is long overdue!
    If you think so too, help keep the thread going!


    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/455359-We-really-should-be-able-to-glamour-other-jobs-sets

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    Imagine running a game that updates like 3 times a year but charges people a flat rate to start playing it, and a monthly fee to keep playing it, and then instead of breaking up the 4 month content drought with events that give silly costumes, you triple-dip and sell those outfits/mounts/emotes to your players instead, or you partner with some stupid company like butterfinger or grubhub that runs out of promo codes after people bought some candy/service they never wanted. And then you take that money and you don't even put it back into the game; you use it to make a marvel game that fails, or you put it towards another ff game.

    Well, ff16 ain't gonna fund itself. Chop chop!
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    Elli Nali
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    Imagine running a game that updates like 3 times a year but charges people a flat rate to start playing it, and a monthly fee to keep playing it, and then instead of breaking up the 4 month content drought with events that give silly costumes, you triple-dip and sell those outfits/mounts/emotes to your players instead, or you partner with some stupid company like butterfinger or grubhub that runs out of promo codes after people bought some candy/service they never wanted. And then you take that money and you don't even put it back into the game; you use it to make a marvel game that fails, or you put it towards another ff game.

    Well, ff16 ain't gonna fund itself. Chop chop!
    Major updates come out maybe 3 times a year but there are several smaller content updates that add plenty of things to do. Omicron tribal quests and variant + criterion dungeons are being released pretty soon. There's nowhere near a "drought." You're being kind of dramatic.

    It's unfortunate that many people never received their rewards for those promotions, but those type of items are usually put in the store at some point down the line. I had to wait for a long time before Yuna's outfit was finally added to the store. But hey, I was happy it was there, and I bought it.

    Do you have any proof they don't put the money they make from the online store back into the game? Also, SE didn't even develop that Avengers game. They only published it. They left the Western games to Western companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicPeanut View Post
    Do you have any proof they don't put the money they make from the online store back into the game?
    The burden of proof there would probably rest on the people saying that they do put it back into the game. Yes, Yoshi has said it's the case but is there any actual evidence? I'm not likely to believe that, especially given Square's recent track record of spaffing money up the wall on stupid things (i.e NFT's)
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