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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    How much you pay for anything is entirely up to you. I get tired of people blaming a store for simply offering. People would be complaining about anything regardless of prices being high or low or even if the shop didn't exist.
    I'll just say this because this is going nowhere, the loot box comment probably wasn't fitting, and you're clearly the crowd meant for this type of deal, so all I say is this: if you're fine with it, then hope you'll also be fine with it when the price will become 25, 30, or even 50 dollars for an item that could be ingame. Because that's what you're gonna get one day, and that one item that you deeply wish to obtain might someday cost over a hundred dollars for all you know. Remember to practice what you preach when that day happens.

    And in all honesty, I don't even hate the cash shop, the shop itself is relatively tame (for now) and I have nothing against it per se. The real issue is the playerbase, the ones with more than bigger wallets, because if they didn't purchase these new items en-masse, I can firmly believe the shop would yes be relevant, but not so extremely expensive to the point of being prohibitive.

    I mean do I buy stuff in it? Sure, I bought a few things, mostly when on sale, but I don't think I've spent more than 200 euros in total when it comes to mog shop items, in the 8-9 years I've been playing (well less, considering the cash shop didn't exist at the start). And even then it was probably fantasias, which are pretty cheap.

    And frankly, at this point, if they want to focus so much on the cash shop, please do and make it bigger. I want to see more stuff in it: more unique items, offer for private housing, extra services for banking, extra slots, and more. They should go all out at this point and see what sticks. Afterall, it's all an offer that you don't need to buy, right?

    Do what you want and enjoy your shopping and game, I believe I've been clear enough.

    This was my previous comment but I felt it was poorly fitting in this argument anyway so I removed it. Do what you will with it, I don't care anymore

    So, theoretically speaking, you'd be also fine with other kinds of offerings such as...lootboxes?

    Because that's what loot boxes are, you know? An offer for "stuff" that you can get where the payment is all up to you (you can pay for one roll, two rolls, even 10 rolls...which is usually the one incentivized the most).

    Sure it's a "fake" promise, but it's where the payment is up to me, and the game is "only offering" me to do it. It's a pretty poor way but that's kinda what it is. And people are mad about it for good reasons.

    Granted, I hope this never happens, because then I'd probably be mad too.
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 09-15-2022 at 08:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    So, theoretically speaking, you'd be also fine with other kinds of offerings such as...lootboxes?

    Because that's what loot boxes are, you know? An offer for "stuff" that you can get where the payment is all up to you (you can pay for one roll, two rolls, even 10 rolls...which is usually the one incentivized the most).

    Sure it's a "fake" promise, but it's where the payment is up to me, and the game is "only offering" me to do it. It's a pretty poor way but that's kinda what it is. And people are mad about it for good reasons.

    Granted, I hope this never happens, because then I'd probably be mad too.
    I wouldn't care if loot boxes were in the game as long as they don't take away the experience of the game. Mogstatio basically doesn't exist to me as I don't need anything from it and it's not marring my experience by any means. I love my glams created through in game means and am satisfied. People can be upset as is their right but you could easily just not spend the money or wait for a sale which will eventually come.

    Hard truth is mogstation isnt going nowhere and prices won't be dropping if folks are paying. So if you want that to change you need to reach your fellow players
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    Last edited by IkaraGreydancer; 09-15-2022 at 08:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    It's never enough for Squeenix.
    Square Enix is a very poor company. They need to put food on the table, and it's not fair that we only pay $13 a month when that doesn't even cover one person's lunch in downtown Tokyo. In fact, the fat cat set was cheaper than my Uber Eats meal. I consider it a charitable donation to such a talented company that has given us this game for such a low price. Let's be honest, if we could pay an extra amount in sub money for maybe a donation badge or perhaps a special title, wouldn't we all do it? Now imagine that title or badge but inside of your heart. Giving to the less fortunate makes us all feel good inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    Square Enix is a very poor company. They need to put food on the table, and it's not fair that we only pay $13 a month when that doesn't even cover one person's lunch in downtown Tokyo. In fact, the fat cat set was cheaper than my Uber Eats meal. I consider it a charitable donation to such a talented company that has given us this game for such a low price. Let's be honest, if we could pay an extra amount in sub money for maybe a donation badge or perhaps a special title, wouldn't we all do it? Now imagine that title or badge but inside of your heart. Giving to the less fortunate makes us all feel good inside.
    Is this bait?
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    Square Enix is a very poor company. They need to put food on the table, and it's not fair that we only pay $13 a month when that doesn't even cover one person's lunch in downtown Tokyo. In fact, the fat cat set was cheaper than my Uber Eats meal. I consider it a charitable donation to such a talented company that has given us this game for such a low price. Let's be honest, if we could pay an extra amount in sub money for maybe a donation badge or perhaps a special title, wouldn't we all do it? Now imagine that title or badge but inside of your heart. Giving to the less fortunate makes us all feel good inside.
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    I just wish the prices in USD were more comparable to the JPY, GBP, or EUR prices. At least with the current exchange rates, USD folks are paying about $5 more than other regions for this costume set.
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    Worry not, it'll get worse, and worse, and worse again. That's the life of a live service game, just like a wolf in sheep's clothing. I personally blame the zoomer paypigs, but every company that travels that path (meaning every fucking one of them) shares part of it. It's even more amusing when you remember Square Enix is full of incompetent people and all the money they get is thrown at some garbage project they just came up with, possibly (probably) causing a ridiculous loss of money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anura View Post
    Worry not, it'll get worse, and worse, and worse again. That's the life of a live service game, just like a wolf in sheep's clothing. I personally blame the zoomer paypigs, but every company that travels that path (meaning every fucking one of them) shares part of it. It's even more amusing when you remember Square Enix is full of incompetent people and all the money they get is thrown at some garbage project they just came up with, possibly (probably) causing a ridiculous loss of money.
    relax, they are sparing no expense on this expansion. Check out these items, pure quality
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantini View Post
    relax, they are sparing no expense on this expansion. Check out these items, pure quality
    Indeed. Paying $22 on a cat hoodie that looks like it came directly from a sixth generation game just fills me with joy. M-more, mistress! W-wait, I mean, Square!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anura View Post
    Indeed. Paying $22 on a cat hoodie that looks like it came directly from a sixth generation game just fills me with joy. M-more, mistress! W-wait, I mean, Square!
    exactly! Pay Square Memex and don't complain. I mean... Square Enix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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