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    Moving servers seems to work for people here, but y'all, not all who want a house can move servers. Not much of a solution there tbh
    Really wish they'd stop adding more to this problem and address it properly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrupted View Post
    Moving servers seems to work for people here, but y'all, not all who want a house can move servers. Not much of a solution there tbh
    Really wish they'd stop adding more to this problem and address it properly
    What do you feel prevents you from changing servers now that we have both World Visit and Data Center Travel? I can think of one specific reason that would prevent it from being an option (ironically related to housing) but it's an outlier situation. I think the majority would find not moving is more a matter of convenience than necessity.

    I don't think telling players to transfer is the correct way to address the problems with housing supply but it is an option that should work for most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    What do you feel prevents you from changing servers now that we have both World Visit and Data Center Travel? I can think of one specific reason that would prevent it from being an option (ironically related to housing) but it's an outlier situation. I think the majority would find not moving is more a matter of convenience than necessity.

    I don't think telling players to transfer is the correct way to address the problems with housing supply but it is an option that should work for most.
    If you have old friends on the server you're on and/or a free company you actually like, makes the whole moving away to get a house not worth it in my opinion. For instance, no way in 7 hells you could drag a whole FC with you especially if some people have houses. Same thing with friends/people you know on the server.

    For me, I don't need to move currently. Was fortunate enough to grab a small way back, but I know this to be the case for a lot of people myself included of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrupted View Post
    If you have old friends on the server you're on and/or a free company you actually like, makes the whole moving away to get a house not worth it in my opinion. For instance, no way in 7 hells you could drag a whole FC with you especially if some people have houses. Same thing with friends/people you know on the server.

    For me, I don't need to move currently. Was fortunate enough to grab a small way back, but I know this to be the case for a lot of people myself included of course.
    Yet you can still use Data Center Travel to play with your friends and your old FC.

    A FC that has such close friendships within it likely is using a Discord so you're never cut off from communicating (it would be a problem if they aren't using Discord or some other third party communication). I talk with my cousin's FC in their Discord frequently even though they're on a different world. If they need me to help them with content, they let me know in Discord and I go visit. I keep my house while getting to play with them.



    I still want SE to implement a better solution than "just transfer to a new world". That only works when new worlds are available and still have housing available. Spriggan and Twintania were new worlds back at the start of Shadowbringers and their wards filled before the expansion ended. What happens when the wards on the new worlds being added this year and next year likewise fill? Back to having the broken system shoved in our faces with no relief.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    None of us here can know for sure, but:
    • modifying old software, or developing new software is expensive, risky, and time-consuming
    • adding new hardware is relatively cheap, low-risk, and usually can be done quickly (except when governments shut down large parts of the global economy)
    • QED: starting new servers and encouraging people to move to them may be the cheapest, fastest, lowest-risk way for SE to increase housing availability.
    Except the game already has the housing system partially instanced so it's far less expensive, risky and time-consuming than starting from scratch.

    Adding new hardware right now is problematic due to the semi-conductor shortage. Why were the new NA worlds delayed an additional 3 months? The suppliers couldn't deliver when expected. Who's to say the same won't happen again next year for the EU and NA worlds scheduled to be added then. Or there could be a new severe COVID outbreak or even other virus causing new global lockdowns and preventing the work from getting done even if the hardware is available.

    Adding the new servers is not happening because of housing. It's happening because servers are already handling more concurrent player logins than they were intended to handle. That the new servers can also be used to address the housing issues is just a bonus for SE.

    Once the announced EU expansion is completed, the EU populations should be down to roughly JP levels. NA will still be screwed and SE has said they are seeking further solutions but nothing they can announce yet. That means possible years more of overcrowding on the NA worlds plus lack of houses to meet NA demand.

    In the meanwhile, we all get to be the head slave in our personal instanced Tataru sweatshop when many players would rather have something they could consider a home.

    Did SE genuinely think that it would be an acceptable substitute or did they think they had the house situation under control after 4.2 so the island would be fun additional content to supplement houses, not knowing that WoW was about to make their dreams come true and drop close to a million new players in their laps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    What do you feel prevents you from changing servers now that we have both World Visit and Data Center Travel? I can think of one specific reason that would prevent it from being an option (ironically related to housing) but it's an outlier situation. I think the majority would find not moving is more a matter of convenience than necessity.

    I don't think telling players to transfer is the correct way to address the problems with housing supply but it is an option that should work for most.
    None of us here can know for sure, but:
    • modifying old software, or developing new software is expensive, risky, and time-consuming
    • adding new hardware is relatively cheap, low-risk, and usually can be done quickly (except when governments shut down large parts of the global economy)
    • QED: starting new servers and encouraging people to move to them may be the cheapest, fastest, lowest-risk way for SE to increase housing availability.
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