[Salt thread] Owning a House Offically became Dead content for me

[Raikai]

I honestly thought the lottery would make things better, but somehow I feel, today, more hopeless than the placard clicking from before.

The only thing the new system achieved was probably just stop people from doing unhealthy camping, like not sleeping.

[Oizen]

I honestly thought the lottery would make things better, but somehow I feel, today, more hopeless than the placard clicking from before.

The only thing the new system achieved was probably just stop people from doing unhealthy camping, like not sleeping.

Plaquard clicking at least gave you the agency to actually feasibly get a house if you dedicated the unrealistically stupid amount of time to it.

All the Lottery has done has made it statistically impossible to even get a house in the first place for a majority of bidders.

Both systems are shit, nothing has been solved, and the core issue of housing continues to be ignored.

[LianaThorne]

Plaquard clicking at least gave you the agency to actually feasibly get a house if you dedicated the unrealistically stupid amount of time to it.

All the Lottery has done has made it statistically impossible to even get a house in the first place for a majority of bidders.

Both systems are shit, nothing has been solved, and the core issue of housing continues to be ignored.

It's not ignored. They just aren't going to do instanced housing. It's pretty clear by now that they have no interest in it and want to keep the ward structure. Otherwise, why did we get Island Sanctuary? It shows they can still create instanced areas for every player and they strapped it onto the housing servers (which they could have done for instanced housing)so.....yeah I'm kinda just wiping my hands of anything IH related actually existing.

[GeminiReed]

The only thing the new system achieved was probably just stop people from doing unhealthy camping, like not sleeping.

I sincerely hope that was the motivation behind the change. I struggle to believe that Square would be that naive to think it would solve the housing shortage. Quite the opposite in fact: It made competing in the housing market accessible. At least now they have metrics on just how badly the ward system has missed the mark.

An unintentional side-effect of their lottery implementation is that the playerbase also has the ability to collect fairly accurate metrics on how badly they missed the mark.

[Jojoya]

I sincerely hope that was the motivation behind the change. I struggle to believe that Square would be that naive to think it would solve the housing shortage. Quite the opposite in fact: It made competing in the housing market accessible. At least now they have metrics on just how badly the ward system has missed the mark.

An unintentional side-effect of their lottery implementation is that the playerbase also has the ability to collect fairly accurate metrics on how badly they missed the mark.

What information we have available to collect as players really isn't going to be that accurate because we have no way of knowing how many entries are from players who already own, want to relocate or entered for a personal house on multiple characters for the sake of winning on one of them. We also can't tell how many players have been doing this with characters on multiple worlds so they can get multiple houses.

We also don't know how many players have given up trying because they feel they'll never beat the lottery with so much competition.

Considering the type of reports that could be generated to pay attention to this sort of thing (and watch for players abusing the spirit of the 1 personal/1 FC house guideline), I wouldn't be that surprised if SE isn't bothering to pay attention to that sort of information.

They've been pretty much silent on the supply problem since start of Shadowbringers. I can understand the initial silence. They had pretty much told us that the Ishgard housing was coming even if they didn't say it outright until the Endwalker announcements, and probably had felt that would solve the problem as it existed before Shadowbringers launch.

But that changed when all the WoW content creators started giving the game an honest try, drawing in a lot of new players not just from WoW but from other MMOs as other content creators hopped on the FotM bandwagon. It's hard to say how many stuck around but certainly it was enough that the Ishgard addition isn't close to handling the new demand.

Hopefully, some of the JP players will get in some useful housing question during the live Q&A in the 14 hour broadcast. With YoshiP reiterating that Island Sanctuary is not intended to be housing , it would be good to hear where they intend to take the housing system from here.

Are they going to stick to wards plus apartments? Do they have something new planned? What about that technology YoshiP had described during the 2019 EU FanFest Q&A - what's the status and what does that mean for housing when they're ready to implement? It makes zero sense that they would invest all that time and money into developing it only for the sake of 62,000 mansion owners while leaving the concerns of hundreds of thousands of players who can't get a house unaddressed.