Island Sanctuary: Rest Cycles? Why?

[vetch]

Does no one understand the concept of "relax" these days?

You don't even know what 'relax' means, you just have the tiniest inkling of it based on what relaxes *you*. It does not mean 'be bored'. Different brains will have different relaxation needs, informed by different preferences and different stimulation requirements.

You can't just smugly prescribe "stare at scenery" to every person you talk to and expect it to work the same for all of them, get a clue.

[Bsrking5]

If it was for casual content and not min-maxers it would just tell you the prices of workshop items in game for the week. There's a bunch of ways it's designed towards mon-max and away from casual. Like supply and efficiency bonuses. And then the island corwies being next to useless which should be the main driver of it as casual content.

[Ayche]

I use the rest cycles as the days where I plan the next 5 days of agenda.
I can just load up all the workshops full of things to do, check the material needs and patch up any deficiencies if there are any.
So for me, rest cycles are useful.

[Raven2014]

The problem is once you reach rank 9, you literally spend less than an hour on your island. In fact, you can set the whole thing up on Tuesday to be entirely automated and once check back maybe twice a week if that. There's nothing else to keep the content alive and it only just released three weeks ago. All this artificial time gating was done purposely because the dev team knew Island Sanctuary has no staying power and would have been completed over an weekend otherwise.

And ... your point being? I know a lot of people are saying what you said, what I don't understand is do you think back and reflect on what you said and see if it makes sense?

A few example: Xenoblade 3, I beat the game with a save clocked at 110h. That lasted just a little over a week. Before that, Trail of Cold Steel lasted me for about 5 days with ~80h clocked in. And I paid 60$ for them, to get roughly 1 week of entertainment. You see the point here? If people like and want to go ham at a content, they will. And they will finish it in no time at all without any gate.

Now ask yourself what do YOU expect? No time gate and content that will last you for weeks and months? How that's possible? Without time gate, normal raid will have one week top. Savage raid won't last a month. and 24 probably would die at 2 weeks. You know what is the only alternative to sustain without the time gate? Grind, long long grind. I don't know about you, but I much prefer time gate content over long grind.

[JamieRose]

Take it as encouragement to step away from the PC/console for a day and do something else with your time. Or at the very least, do some different content in the game instead of spending all your time on the island.

My island is max rank now, so there isn't much to do there aside from slopping the hogs and tending to the crops once a day. Everything is scheduled out for a week in advance and my pasture is full so capturing mobs is out.

That and I already touched grass today.

No I did not smoke it. There's a time and place for everything and it's called college.

[Deveryn]

And ... your point being? I know a lot of people are saying what you said, what I don't understand is do you think back and reflect on what you said and see if it makes sense?

A few example: Xenoblade 3, I beat the game with a save clocked at 110h. That lasted just a little over a week. Before that, Trail of Cold Steel lasted me for about 5 days with ~80h clocked in. And I paid 60$ for them, to get roughly 1 week of entertainment. You see the point here? If people like and want to go ham at a content, they will. And they will finish it in no time at all without any gate.

Now ask yourself what do YOU expect? No time gate and content that will last you for weeks and months? How that's possible? Without time gate, normal raid will have one week top. Savage raid won't last a month. and 24 probably would die at 2 weeks. You know what is the only alternative to sustain without the time gate? Grind, long long grind. I don't know about you, but I much prefer time gate content over long grind.

^^ This right here ^^

Time gating is much maligned, but it's really for everyone's benefit. Before time gating was a concept, all you had was grinds. For an MMO to hang on to people and keep them engaged / paying, it's necessary to prolong the content as it can only be developed so fast. On the customer side, burnout is a real thing. People have developed health issues from just staying on and grinding at objectives. Some aren't around to game anymore as a result.

People look at world race every 6 months or whatever and think "ooh, look at them go for those long sessions." That was the norm back in the day. Games like FFXI and EQ have had raid content that would take an entire day or two to clear just once. Maybe you got what you needed, but you generally didn't. I once played an MMO with an unforgettable grind for this mega-stat piece. I had to kill around 100,000 mobs to get it and the areas they occupied weren't all that big. I pushed for it and might've been the first to get it, but it didn't matter as the game didn't last very long.

[NekoMataMata]

Take it as encouragement to step away from the PC/console for a day and do something else with your time. Or at the very least, do some different content in the game instead of spending all your time on the island.

Yeah cause you're really gonna be spending all your time on the island staring at your workshop queue.

[Dimenital]

And ... your point being? I know a lot of people are saying what you said, what I don't understand is do you think back and reflect on what you said and see if it makes sense?

A few example: Xenoblade 3, I beat the game with a save clocked at 110h. That lasted just a little over a week. Before that, Trail of Cold Steel lasted me for about 5 days with ~80h clocked in. And I paid 60$ for them, to get roughly 1 week of entertainment. You see the point here? If people like and want to go ham at a content, they will. And they will finish it in no time at all without any gate.

Now ask yourself what do YOU expect? No time gate and content that will last you for weeks and months? How that's possible? Without time gate, normal raid will have one week top. Savage raid won't last a month. and 24 probably would die at 2 weeks. You know what is the only alternative to sustain without the time gate? Grind, long long grind. I don't know about you, but I much prefer time gate content over long grind.

id prefer no time gate or longer grind on the island sanctuary. theres no reason for either for this activity. what a dumb statement made by a bootlicker.

[Krotoan]

And yet again. People are missing the point just because you CAN optimize the absolute crap out of something doesn't mean you HAVE to.

You wanna look up everything and follow the formula, get rank 10 ASAP, suck up all the rewards and never go back to the island again?

Cool. You do the content as you like.

BUT.. for a lot of other people the island has been a place of discovery, relaxation, and progression. And this is what it feels like it was meant for.

Think about if y'all HADN'T googled anything, or come here gleaning information on what to look for where and what was coming and what dropped what and how exactly to layout your manufacturing?

Would have been a neat couple weeks at least of trying out things, trial and error, and being excited about what exactly would unlock as you progressed eh?



What are the "days off" for? Another cog in figuring out the cycles that work for you.

Technically there don't have to be days off. Technically the gathering didn't have to be 1 item at a time. Technically they didn't have to have "build" time for the buildings or make them require different materials.

They could have viciously narrowed it down to gather stuff, get stuff.

But they tried something.



Yeah there's a lot to be desired and even by slow measure of just plugging in stuff most people will probably have all the items within the next couple months, but that, I think, was the idea. By then maybe we'll have more stuff. All those obviously clear able paths and caves will show their uses and the empty tiers you can only get to by flying will have items on them for the new stuff.

[TheSuperior]

Take it as encouragement to step away from the PC/console for a day and do something else with your time. Or at the very least, do some different content in the game instead of spending all your time on the island.

Then tell me why there's no time gate on my microwave.

Oh right, it's a machine. It works instantly and when I need it.