[Salt thread] Owning a House Offically became Dead content for me

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

All I can really say is: keep pressuring SE to genuinely fix the broken dumpster fire of a system they've put in place (rather than repeatedly applying poor band-aid fixes that don't address any of the core issues of how they did their housing system)… but don't expect it to actually get fixed any time in the next decade.

Anyone interested in housing would be better served moving to an MMO with better housing, such as ESO. All instanced, vastly different locales to choose from, different house styles, tons of furniture, lots of control with decorating (don't even need to use a third party tool to move on the Y axis, imagine!), many even come with yards for those who want them. Blows this poor artificial scarcity neighborhood system out of the dang water.

[Gemina]

Since the inception of the Housing Lottery, i lost every time and now on my Home world Shiva there is no Housing Plot Left as of Yesterdays Drawing(as far as i looked).

Since they dont do Demolitions anymore there wont be freed up plots from inactive players occupying plots making it mpossible to be able to own a House.
FC Rooms or Apartment is not a Sufficient alternative, i had the faint hope island sanctuary maybe we can have a house to ones liking but its static Buildings.

Please add more wards.

Thank you,

You can try not making your enjoyment in FFXIV contingent entirely on owning a house in FFXIV.

They will add more wards, and you may yet again, lose. I don't say this to be rude, or mean. I say it because it's the truth, and nothing less should set your expectations.

[Rilifane]

All I can really say is: keep pressuring SE to genuinely fix the broken dumpster fire of a system they've put in place (rather than repeatedly applying poor band-aid fixes that don't address any of the core issues of how they did their housing system)… but don't expect it to actually get fixed any time in the next decade.

Anyone interested in housing would be better served moving to an MMO with better housing, such as ESO. All instanced, vastly different locales to choose from, different house styles, tons of furniture, lots of control with decorating (don't even need to use a third party tool to move on the Y axis, imagine!), many even come with yards for those who want them. Blows this poor artificial scarcity neighborhood system out of the dang water.

I've heard lots of good things about ESO housing. I also remember Rift housing quite fondly. SOLO had some insane options like flipping things around freely and creating a completely free layout of walls, floor tiles, roofs, levels but was mostly limited to chinese style.
Of all the games I've played, FFXIV has the most limited housing both in terms of availability and design freedom.

[Syln]

Honestly, now that i have done what i wanted with my house and i have got the island sanctuary where i spend most of my time, i wouldn't mind letting it go but only with a full refund, land, house and a bonus for furnitures that i won't be able to sell or stock. Which would be around 25 M for everything.

Not that much for a middle house in empyreum with a marketboard in front of it !

They should really add the possibility to sell a house with a lot of restriction, like having to own it for at least 6 monthes before selling it, not being able to own more than one house per account, one house sale every 2 years, no possibily to go back once you apply to sell it, and of course limitation on the price of the house (Base price of the plot+house minimum to prevent fuck up and x2 (x1,5 for great plot) maximum to prevent real estate agent wannabe).

[LianaThorne]

Honestly, now that i have done what i wanted with my house and i have got the island sanctuary where i spend most of my time, i wouldn't mind letting it go but only with a full refund, land, house and a bonus for furnitures that i won't be able to sell or stock. Which would be around 25 M for everything.

Not that much for a middle house in empyreum with a marketboard in front of it !

They should really add the possibility to sell a house with a lot of restriction, like having to own it for at least 6 monthes before selling it, not being able to own more than one house per account, one house sale every 2 years, no possibily to go back once you apply to sell it, and of course limitation on the price of the house (Base price of the plot+house minimum to prevent fuck up and x2 (x1,5 for great plot) maximum to prevent real estate agent wannabe).

I would agree but how exactly do you value the furnishings inside? How do you determine what's a "great" plot or what is worth the 2x? Would it be just solely off the market board placement or is it being near a landmark enough or both? For example, I have plot 41 in Empy and it has an MB less than 10 steps away + is the only one in its division (if you check on the map you'll see what I mean) + the park right outside. Would that be enough to qualify for the full 2x? Or would it be only those that are around the outdoor spa?

[Remolia]

Players can solo open and close Instanced dungeons, or visit instanced areas like Inn rooms.
Why players cant have instanced houses, or even instanced FC wards?
Why do we have half/fully dead wards, + people who fights for housing, and some of them even forced to server change.
Ask house owners, most of them gonna say, that their neighbors are ded.

Each item in house has 4 coordinates, these coordinates are rounded, so I believe its a 2-4 bytes value, 8-16 bytes in total.
Plus item got link:id and color code, lets link gonna be 32bit value aka 4 bytes (maybe 8 in worse) and color code is 1-2 bytes value.
So in sum we have like 13-26 bytes for each item in house, lets round to 32 bytes, ok.

So 100 items gonna take 3200 bytes of space, and 200-300 items gonna take 6400-9600 bytes of data. So Large house gonna take like 10kbytes of data.
Are u telling me, that in 2022 player cant have additional 10kbytes of data for "free", so we have to play around this "ward" nonsense?

[Sotaris]

Move to one of the new servers, we have houses.

[VerdeLuck]

Move to one of the new servers, we have houses.

This would be a possibility if cross-region travel existed or this game wasn't so terrible to play with high ping

[Deveryn]

Players can solo open and close Instanced dungeons, or visit instanced areas like Inn rooms.
Why players cant have instanced houses, or even instanced FC wards?
Why do we have half/fully dead wards, + people who fights for housing, and some of them even forced to server change.
Ask house owners, most of them gonna say, that their neighbors are ded.

Each item in house has 4 coordinates, these coordinates are rounded, so I believe its a 2-4 bytes value, 8-16 bytes in total.
Plus item got link:id and color code, lets link gonna be 32bit value aka 4 bytes (maybe 8 in worse) and color code is 1-2 bytes value.
So in sum we have like 13-26 bytes for each item in house, lets round to 32 bytes, ok.

So 100 items gonna take 3200 bytes of space, and 200-300 items gonna take 6400-9600 bytes of data. So Large house gonna take like 10kbytes of data.
Are u telling me, that in 2022 player cant have additional 10kbytes of data for "free", so we have to play around this "ward" nonsense?

If it were only so simple. The trouble is likely the ward system itself, which has everything split into 2 spaces (more for FCs). There are about half a million plots all together. What's supposed to happen with those? Any addition / change would disrupt those people in some way, so things are kinda stuck as they are.

[Illmaeran]

You will enjoy your apartment and you will like it

I do have an apartment, and I do. Designing it to maximize both functionality and space took a long time, but it was worth it as I use it all the time.

It's nice to have a house for landscaping and to have a larger space for folks to hang out in, but I was quite happy with just apartments and FC rooms when houses weren't available. I had a house years ago and lost it due to life circumstances and when I came back they were all taken. Lacking a house didn't negatively impact my enjoyment of the game. Decorating's a lot of fun, but unless you're willing to spend a ton of time crafting or a ton of Gil buying new things, it's not content that can be fully utilized frequently. Unless you RP and/or are redecorating frequently the once-and-done of a house essentially turns into bragging rights "Hey look plebs, I've got a house because I wanted to decorate, but it's all done and I don't redecorate, so now all I have is a house that I don't really interact with!".

If you want a house "because decorating", apartments and FC rooms are a lot more available and affordable to constantly redesign than a house. If you want to argue that apartments don't have enough item slots, I'd suggest going over to ffxivhomeandgarden on Reddit to see just how intricate you can make an apartment.