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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    No. The players did. They don't know how to relax. This can all be enjoyed without spreadsheets, weather forecasts or movement macros.
    and it can be enjoyed with spreadsheets, weather forecast and movement macros to finish faster and ride a motorcycle.
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    No. The players did. They don't know how to relax. This can all be enjoyed without spreadsheets, weather forecasts or movement macros.
    People are doing those things because the systems in place lend towards those behaviors. Plus, the island isn't an inherently robust experience and a lot of people are only doing it to get the rewards they want as fast as possible so they can pretend it doesn't exist.
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    Wow, you'll really throw whatever out there, even if it's exactly what I replied to.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    No. The players did. They don't know how to relax. This can all be enjoyed without spreadsheets, weather forecasts or movement macros.
    They literally put a spreadsheet (the stock popularity thing) in the game itself as a core part of how you're supposed to run your island industry.

    When I gripe about spreadsheets I don't mean consulting them outside of the game.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    They literally put a spreadsheet (the stock popularity thing) in the game itself as a core part of how you're supposed to run your island industry.

    When I gripe about spreadsheets I don't mean consulting them outside of the game.
    Soooo you want us to have no idea how to make good profits using the in game spreadsheets? We have to go outside the game to satisfy you?
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagacious View Post
    Soooo you want us to have no idea how to make good profits using the in game spreadsheets? We have to go outside the game to satisfy you?
    I never said any of that.

    I simply object at a base level that my "relaxing tropical island" revolves around something better associated with office work.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I never said any of that.

    I simply object at a base level that my "relaxing tropical island" revolves around something better associated with office work.
    Don't you understand that the relaxing starts at level 10 when you've cultivated, pasteurized, and tamed the island first. As a warrior of light you should expect no less.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagacious View Post
    Don't you understand that the relaxing starts at level 10 when you've cultivated, pasteurized, and tamed the island first. As a warrior of light you should expect no less.
    To be frank, saying that as what I'd expect if I were the warrior of light, I'd expect the ungrateful asses from the Eorzea Alliance to give me a nice place for saving them over and over, without work involved. This is a gift from Tataru, but she could give us a house building kit at least, since she expects us to do all this work anyway
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by ameliaw View Post
    To be frank, saying that as what I'd expect if I were the warrior of light, I'd expect the ungrateful asses from the Eorzea Alliance to give me a nice place for saving them over and over, without work involved. This is a gift from Tataru, but she could give us a house building kit at least, since she expects us to do all this work anyway
    But didn't you see the scions all bored as f? Wanting action and wanting to go do something? Did you think us warriors of light immune to these impulses? tataru knows us and knows this is what we would like to do. We, warriors of light, love hard work to achieve great ends. We've carried rocks, wood, water, animals, and protected the many with ease and love. I love what the people have done. Give me a whole island of my own to tame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I never said any of that.

    I simply object at a base level that my "relaxing tropical island" revolves around something better associated with office work.
    Except it doesn't? That's a player choice to make it revolve around "office work". You can earn cowries without touching the workshop.

    Creature Leavings? 12 cowries each. If you average 30 leavings a day, that's 360 cowries per day.

    Grown Crops? 4-6 cowries each. If you grow the premium crops, that 580 cowries every 2 days after the seed fees.

    Rare materials from the Granary? 25 cowries each or 200 cowries a day after deducting the foraging fees if your Granary is level 3.

    At 750 Cowries a day, you'd have the entire Isle Explorer's set in 20 days, a hairstyle in 8 days, a Mandragora mount in 16 days, etc. All at a nice slow leisurely pace without touching a spreadsheet.

    It's a much slower way to earn the cowries but it can be done.
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