Release a 16 person 4 hour long dungeon

[Peptaru]

Please, please, please quit adding speed run content! Stop suggesting it! Its a weak test to put the good rewards with. "We couldn't think of anything better, so let's make it a speed run chest!"

[Mireille]

Please, please, please quit adding speed run content! Stop suggesting it! Its a weak test to put the good rewards with. "We couldn't think of anything better, so let's make it a speed run chest!"

I don't really object to the idea of speed run reward, but maybe they should be more along the lines of achievements than items. The achievements could themselves give titles or items.

[HokSeven]

Please, please, please quit adding speed run content! Stop suggesting it! Its a weak test to put the good rewards with. "We couldn't think of anything better, so let's make it a speed run chest!"

This, This ten times over. This is exactly what killed Dzamel for me and pretty much all my friends. The dungeon is just a run fest. A total waste of a dungeon where it would've been better if they just developed a race track with hurdles in it (might be more interesting really).

[Asiaine]

This, This ten times over. This is exactly what killed Dzamel for me and pretty much all my friends. The dungeon is just a run fest. A total waste of a dungeon where it would've been better if they just developed a race track with hurdles in it (might be more interesting really).

We call it 'speed run', but is it really a 'speed run', or designated 'speed run', or even inteded to be 'go as fast as you can' run.

Or is it just that we get rewarded if we complete it in a reasonable amount of time, versus taking too long.

For example,
The original intent was that it should be doable in 30 minutes. But rather than pulling us out after 30 minutes, they gave us a lot of bonus time (because we often complain things are too hard, etc.).

But then this is unfair to those who find it easy and can easily finish it in 30 minutes. So they give a reward for people who can finish it within a reasonable amount of time (or, they do NOT give a reward to people who take longer than it should?).

I guess its a perspective. I look at it as: If done efficiently, you get a bonus reward. If not, you don't. And efficiency is measured (in this case) by how quickly you go through.

Of course, I could be wrong ^^;