Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
RDM offers no real support besides Barrier. So not really an excuse. And no, there is no such thing as my truth, just THE truth which I'm telling you. Here's more facts for you, SAM/BLM > MNK/DRG/NIN > RPR/RDM > BRD/DNC > MCH/SMN is what proper balance would look like
RDM also offers Vercure, Verraise and Embolden. Sure, Vercure and Verraise aren't necessarily "usable" without DPS loss, but that's the point and flavor of the job. You're meant to damage and have some healing, with backup raises. I don't think they should lose that much damage for Verraise, and I think Embolden should be buffed for them being the 3rd worst DPS, but they should remain at third worst DPS. Sadly, they are currently the worst DPS in this patch for almost every fight, but that's not what they should currently be.

In terms of what each job brings for support, this is the true, correct order of what should be top DPS to least:

BLM > SAM > MCH > RPR > MNK > SMN > DRG > NIN > RDM > BRD > DNC > DRK > GNB > WAR > PLD > SGE > WHM > SCH > AST

The cool thing about the truth is that it's true regardless of what YOU believe. You're just believing in a fantasy, not the truth. This list however, is objective and factual truth with no counter arguments, not even for MCH who offer no support and must have the DPS to reflect that regardless of their mobility or uptime.

The arguments you want to make are not what that list should be like CURRENTLY, but how the jobs should have support added/removed to then change their position. You want RDM to have less support in favor of more DPS. I think they should have slightly more support than they have now while also having more DPS. I think they should keep Verraise but never go above any other DPS than BRD or MCH, while perhaps getting even more support. RDM should be one of the most heavy support mage jobs, and should be seen as the "BRD/DNC" of the mage role. I don't think their Verraise should tax their DPS as much as having additional and better support options should.