The WOL and Mass Murder

[SentioftheHoukai]

its not even about the plenty. Its about the sundering. if you stop venat then the sundering wont happen which means every person born after no longer exists since not everyone is a fragment of an ancient. and even then they also cease to exist because despite being their reincarnation theyre not the same person.

I don't honestly see why this is an issue. The Scions and all the people we know existed as an Ancient in some form or other, even though we know not whose lives they were living. The Sundered do not have some preferential right to exist over the Unsundered, friend. This exact idea you're spouting is what so many took issue with in Endwalker, the way those who came before's lives are treated as dispensable or inevitable in their demises whilst the Sundered get every excuse in the book. Why are you so doggedly unwilling to offer them the same moral standards for life?

since not everyone is a fragment of an ancient.

Ah, just noticed this part. I assume it was our main beef, and I'm here to clarify that this isn't accurate. The "Amaurotines" were simply the denizens of a single city. The "Ancients" were a planetary existence, Star-wide.

[sidurgu-12]

I don't honestly see why this is an issue. The Scions and all the people we know existed as an Ancient in some form or other, even though we know not whose lives they were living. The Sundered do not have some preferential right to exist over the Unsundered, friend. This exact idea you're spouting is what so many took issue with in Endwalker, the way those who came before's lives are treated as dispensable or inevitable in their demises whilst the Sundered get every excuse in the book. Why are you so doggedly unwilling to offer them the same moral standards for life?

ok no, let me stop you right there. its not about who deserves to live or die. its not about preference, hell its not even about morality. all i said was if venat is stopped the present as it stands cease to be (in that timeline). thats all. thats it. thats the whole thing. (plus canonically only us and krile have the echo, so no not every scion had an ancient equivalent.)

[Cleretic]

(plus canonically only us and krile have the echo, so no not every scion had an ancient equivalent.)

This isn't even a 'probably don't' situation, to clarify: remember that every A-list Scion saw the starshower in the Crystarium, so if they had the capacity, they would've awakened to it.

Of course this is all just Senti trying to drag the same argument as always into yet another thread regardless of relevance. Funny how they were the one who tried to bring in the original OP from several years ago, only to forcibly re-litigate an argument that literally did not exist at that time.