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    Kukajoo's Avatar
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    The WOL and Mass Murder

    Something that's been irking me for a long time is the sheer number of people we've killed as the warrior of light? We are people with inhumane power, the echo allows us to overcome any obstacle and so far the limit the top of the food chain. Should a stronger existence, Zenos for example, present itself before us, we simply surpass it. But what happens when the wartime comes to an end?When will the eyes of the people turn from admiration to fear? We have a veritable ocean of blood on our hands. I'd love to see more exposition on this, i want the WOL to be held accountable for his actions, i wan't our allies and friends have at least an arc where our ridiculous power level is a matter of concern rather than a fix-all-do-all solution

    How do you guys feel about this? Do you think we should be reprimanded or should we keep getting a free pass for "justice" ? I realize we can't truly ever be held accountable, locked away, and so on as its an mmorpg in the end but at least a nod, or an arc encompassing it to some degree would be nice.
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    I mean, the DRK story touches on this for a bit...


    Plus, at this point the average person wouldn't be afraid of the WoL, because we're still basically someone's loaded gun. If we started actively doing things for our sakes rather than someone else's, then maybe there could be an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    I mean, the DRK story touches on this for a bit...


    Plus, at this point the average person wouldn't be afraid of the WoL, because we're still basically someone's loaded gun. If we started actively doing things for our sakes rather than someone else's, then maybe there could be an issue.
    Historically speaking, people and nations have tended to be afraid of any uniquely powerful weapon, no matter who carries it (outside of their own faction). We're more alike to someone's armed warhead, but with infinite uses...

    That said, I do think the majority of people not likely to underestimate us do also consider us as one of them, or at least two close an ally to ever see violent confrontation or retaliation from the WoL, and that this will continue even after all the wars have been won or avoided.
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    History is written by the victors.

    However I think a storyline where the people who feel threatened by the alignment of the WoL with their opposition decide that they'll manipulate public opinion AGAINST us and turn former allies into enemies we have to fight (imagine a dungeon with each boss being a City Leader, Raubahn extreme for real!) would be real neato. People like us because we're doing what they think is good and the cost doesn't affect them directly. This is pretty much what happens to the WoD, in their world they're the heroes. If we're ever shown to be what equates to a mindless nuclear weapon, I'm sure we would have some bad days ahead of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    History is written by the victors.

    However I think a storyline where the people who feel threatened by the alignment of the WoL with their opposition decide that they'll manipulate public opinion AGAINST us and turn former allies into enemies we have to fight (imagine a dungeon with each boss being a City Leader, Raubahn extreme for real!) would be real neato. People like us because we're doing what they think is good and the cost doesn't affect them directly. This is pretty much what happens to the WoD, in their world they're the heroes. If we're ever shown to be what equates to a mindless nuclear weapon, I'm sure we would have some bad days ahead of us.
    This is what i mean! I would love an arc like this, and getting to fight our allies via raid, or dungeon or even trial would be amazing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kukajoo View Post
    This is what i mean! I would love an arc like this, and getting to fight our allies via raid, or dungeon or even trial would be amazing
    If that happened, our WoL would feel betrayed, and just like his Ascian brethren he might wanna take revenge, he'll probably be all like "Our WoL: Emet-Selch and Elidibus were right...These malformed creatures are undeserving of my care love or praise or my protection, they turn their back on the one who saved them for fear of my power,they don't desserve to inherit this world, and as the last remaining of my brethren i must end these lying humans, thus like like my brothers before me i shall go about and carry out their wish and complete the rejoining by summoning "Lord Zodiark" just like how Elidibus and Emet-Selch and the others wanted to do, i shall end this...I shall end it all with the power i have and once again turn this world how it should have been like long ago before the calamity...Forgive me Hydalyn...I must disappoint you...Once everything is done and over with i will bring back my people,for the convocation...For i am Azem 14th seat of the convocation of 14, and thus i shall not give these malformed creatures any quarter!...."And thus the true calamity starts. "Our WoL: Worry not my brothers...I will bring you all back and take revenge for you all for these malformed creatures in tricking me to put you all down!...I shall never forgive them for making me kill you my brothers and i shall see our paradise lost restored!..." A lot of scaryness would ensue from this And the true chaos would start. O ___ O; if the people who our WoL trusted turned their back on us and betray us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PastelGothGuy01 View Post
    If that happened, our WoL would feel betrayed, and just like his Ascian brethren he might wanna take revenge, he'll probably be all like "Our WoL: Emet-Selch and Elidibus were right...These malformed creatures are undeserving of my care love or praise or my protection, they turn their back on the one who saved them for fear of my power,they don't desserve to inherit this world, and as the last remaining of my brethren i must end these lying humans, thus like like my brothers before me i shall go about and carry out their wish and complete the rejoining by summoning "Lord Zodiark" just like how Elidibus and Emet-Selch and the others wanted to do, i shall end this...I shall end it all with the power i have and once again turn this world how it should have been like long ago before the calamity...Forgive me Hydalyn...I must disappoint you...Once everything is done and over with i will bring back my people,for the convocation...For i am Azem 14th seat of the convocation of 14, and thus i shall not give these malformed creatures any quarter!...."And thus the true calamity starts. "Our WoL: Worry not my brothers...I will bring you all back and take revenge for you all for these malformed creatures in tricking me to put you all down!...I shall never forgive them for making me kill you my brother and i shall see our paradise lost restored!..." A lot of scaryness would ensue from this And the true chaos would start. O ___ O; if the people who our WoL trusted turned their back on us and betray us.
    that definitely wouldn't be my wols response considering he sees all ascians as unrepentent monsters (not the ancients, the ascians). at best hed just abandon them and travel to perfect his omnicraft skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidurgu-12 View Post
    that definitely wouldn't be my wols response considering he sees all ascians as unrepentent monsters (not the ancients, the ascians). at best hed just abandon them and travel to perfect his omnicraft skills.
    I'm just saying "If" it happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PastelGothGuy01 View Post
    If that happened, our WoL would feel betrayed, and just like his Ascian brethren he might wanna take revenge, he'll probably be all like "Our WoL: Emet-Selch and Elidibus were right...These malformed creatures are undeserving of my care love or praise or my protection, they turn their back on the one who saved them for fear of my power,they don't desserve to inherit this world, and as the last remaining of my brethren i must end these lying humans, thus like like my brothers before me i shall go about and carry out their wish and complete the rejoining by summoning "Lord Zodiark" just like how Elidibus and Emet-Selch and the others wanted to do, i shall end this...I shall end it all with the power i have and once again turn this world how it should have been like long ago before the calamity...Forgive me Hydalyn...I must disappoint you...Once everything is done and over with i will bring back my people,for the convocation...For i am Azem 14th seat of the convocation of 14, and thus i shall not give these malformed creatures any quarter!...."And thus the true calamity starts. "Our WoL: Worry not my brothers...I will bring you all back and take revenge for you all for these malformed creatures in tricking me to put you all down!...I shall never forgive them for making me kill you my brothers and i shall see our paradise lost restored!..." A lot of scaryness would ensue from this And the true chaos would start. O ___ O; if the people who our WoL trusted turned their back on us and betray us.
    20/02/2018 06h40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki34 View Post
    20/02/2018 06h40
    They just HAD to spread their adoration of the Ascians and declaration that they're 'brethren' wherever they found to say it!

    Frankly I'm VERY confused they found this thread for it. I don't even know what search method and terms they used to get here that wouldn't have put them somewhere more recent first.
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