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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    I think it would be a good look for him. Especially if he got some new facial hair too. It's hard to believe someone in his situation stays so clean shaven. It's not as if Elezen don't grow beards.
    It's almost like some people don't like having beards. Beards are annoying, they itch, require constant maintenance.


    This sounds like it's coming from someone who can't grow a beard lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    It's almost like some people don't like having beards. Beards are annoying, they itch, require constant maintenance.


    This sounds like it's coming from someone who can't grow a beard lol.
    Bangs are definitely more annoying than beards, this is coming from someone whose had both. You don't stand to lose anything from a more masculine guy being added to the cast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Bangs are definitely more annoying than beards, this is coming from someone whose had both. You don't stand to lose anything from a more masculine guy being added to the cast.
    Facial hair does not equal masculine. Neither does not having bangs. You have very warped views on what is and is not masculine lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Facial hair does not equal masculine. Neither does not having bangs. You have very warped views on what is and is not masculine lol.
    I'm confused as to how this is an argument against having someone in the main party with a beard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Not sure this was ever argued......
    But it is argued that it wouldnt look good on Estinian, but rather a different character
    After Estinien's lackluster performance in Endwalker I'm ok with him being benched in favor of someone who looks more tough than him. Again anyone from this thread could serve as inspiration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    I'm confused as to how this is an argument against having someone in the main party with a beard.



    After Estinien's lackluster performance in Endwalker I'm ok with him being benched in favor of someone who looks more tough than him. Again anyone from this thread could serve as inspiration.
    since we are voicing opinions and personal preferences.. I prefer the no beard for anyone that accompanies us. beards creep me out. but thats a me thing, much the same as long hair, beards etc are a you thing.

    I am VERY happy none of the scions have one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    I am VERY happy none of the scions have one
    Thancred used to have one back in HW till SB but he shaved it in ShB
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    I'm confused as to how this is an argument against having someone in the main party with a beard.



    After Estinien's lackluster performance in Endwalker I'm ok with him being benched in favor of someone who looks more tough than him. Again anyone from this thread could serve as inspiration.
    It's not. It's an argument against you saying the main party doesn't have anyone masculine in it.

    And your opinion on who looks tough is terrible.

    I don't think anyone has ever looked at estinien and thought "man that guy looks like a wimp."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    It's not. It's an argument against you saying the main party doesn't have anyone masculine in it.

    And your opinion on who looks tough is terrible.

    I don't think anyone has ever looked at estinien and thought "man that guy looks like a wimp."
    He's a lanky elf. He isn't exactly physically impressive but at least when he wore his hair loose he had a high elf thing going on that looked ok. Now he just looks strange. Thancred was also way too young looking and Urianger and G'raha Tia need no explanation.

    I guess if the game wants to self-select for people who are only into one type of aesthetic for men and women then it's on track to do that just like how Genshin Impact looks.
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    Genshin? Thats the phone game that makes an unholy amount of money by catering to what weebs like, yeah?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    I'm confused as to how this is an argument against having someone in the main party with a beard.



    After Estinien's lackluster performance in Endwalker I'm ok with him being benched in favor of someone who looks more tough than him. Again anyone from this thread could serve as inspiration.
    Why bench him, when we can just add to the cast?
    Estinian probably didnt give you what You want out of him, but he is Very well Liked, and I for one want more of him.
    And you'd run the possibility of missing out on Chemistry between 2 hard-fought Veterans if you bench & substitute, instead of just allowing both to exist.
    This is why we need Well Written Characters, not just Checklist Archetypes.
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