Are positionals a outdated thing?

[Wolwosh]

Not doing positionals is outdated When they're gone you're going to miss them

[TheMightyMollusk]

Not doing positionals is outdated When they're gone you're going to miss them

I'm sure I'd miss them just as much as I miss TP.

[Saimeren]

Not doing positionals is outdated When they're gone you're going to miss them

I can hear it now;

"taking positionals away is dumbing down the game! They're just streamlining and catering to casuals!!!!!"

[Ransu]

Not doing positionals is outdated When they're gone you're going to miss them

I don't really think I would. I still do them out of habit when I play MNK, but honestly I don't really think they add anything to the game. Its just something I do subconsciously and when there's a mechanic that prevents me from doing them I just pop true north. The concept imo has ran its course and the dev team seems acutely aware of that as they have been reducing the amount of positional's in the game by quite a bit since the launch of ARR.

they're kind of the reason melee get's to do more damage than ranged. hitboxes are so big everyone would be ranged without them

not opposed to removal but what would replace them to keep melee's value?

Positionals have nothing to do with that. Melee do more damage than physical ranged due to the concept of uptime. A physical ranged job can basically have 100% uptime, thus their damage output is calculated based on that fact.

A lot of fights have mechanics that take positionals into account, but you don't really lose uptime and true north just outright negates the potency loss. Without positionals they could focus more on mechanics that push melee away from the boss and create uptime issues for them the same way they create mechanics that force casters to move and disrupt their uptime. Its all about efficiency and finding the best solution to keep up your uptime on the boss and imo positionals don't really add anything to that front other than managing your 2 stacks of true north that are on pretty short CD's.

One of the most interestingly designed fights last tier was P2 and P2S because of the freedom they had with mechanics in relation to the arena. So I am in the camp that removing positionals would allow for more dynamic fight design which the game itself would generally benefit from on a universal scale.

I agree with this. P2S was such an interesting fight and it was really nice not having to deal with positionals. I even did a few clears on my DRG on that fight which was a ton of fun.

[Brightamethyst]

Not doing positionals is outdated When they're gone you're going to miss them

Every time someone says this I think about Cleric Stance and laugh.