cheating onsal pallies

[VerdeLuck]

It is not cheating if it is working as intended. Can someone with an OFFICIAL confirmation from SE that it is indeed a bug?

it was posted in the bug forum and marked as an accepted bug
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-making-claims

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

it was posted in the bug forum and marked as an accepted bug
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-making-claims

Well that is definitely something. Let's hope something will be done about that, thread is like 4 months old by now.

(I would still not punish PLDs currently using this, like how would you even go about proving all of this)

[tsuchii]

it was posted in the bug forum and marked as an accepted bug
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-making-claims

4 months. Wow.

[anna-steele]

Well that is definitely something. Let's hope something will be done about that, thread is like 4 months old by now.

(I would still not punish PLDs currently using this, like how would you even go about proving all of this)

i would. it is clearly a confirmed bug by devs and is being abused, and even for the users who do not view forums at all or notices, it is obvious to tell this is not intended behavior. all other games, confirmed bugs being abused to gain advantage means a BAN. people are lucky if they are not PERMANENT BANNED. as to how to catch them, i do not know how these companies catch exploiters, but they have their methods, and it is always followed with a "i didnt do anything" flood of crying pleas. "i didnt know it was against the rules!" phooey


yeah right.

sometimes i would read warcraft forum in classic version for AV afk exploiters crying "oh i did nothing wrong" and the GM would come in and post the logs and data that shows they AFK exploited for 20-30 minutes at a time 20 games in a row. now that is comedy

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

i would. it is clearly a confirmed bug by devs and is being abused, and even for the users who do not view forums at all or notices, it is obvious to tell this is not intended behavior. all other games, confirmed bugs being abused to gain advantage means a BAN. people are lucky if they are not PERMANENT BANNED. as to how to catch them, i do not know how these companies catch exploiters, but they have their methods, and it is always followed with a "i didnt do anything" flood of crying pleas. "i didnt know it was against the rules!" phooey


yeah right.

sometimes i would read warcraft forum in classic version for AV afk exploiters crying "oh i did nothing wrong" and the GM would come in and post the logs and data that shows they AFK exploited for 20-30 minutes at a time 20 games in a row. now that is comedy

First of all, how Blizzard GMs handle cases is not a golden standard for other games' GMs / STF.

Second, interacting with an Ovoo / Node is similar to using Elixir in there you can be interrupted upon taking damage unless Covered. Cover-Elixir is seen as a normal interaction, so I would give benefit of doubt to PLD players that they do not see this as a bug but rather an overpowered yet legit interaction.

So you would ban if not straight up permaban people using their job as they think is intended. They are merely playing meta and because some GM on the forum put the Cover-Ovoo strat into the "Accepted Bugs" queue, they should now be punished? No PSA, no warning, they are supposed "to simply know or think for themselves how this is cheating"? Like no offense, we have better things to do in our evenings than ponder if a normal-feeling interaction is considered cheating to some knobs.

No ban, no punishment. Hate the game / dev for putting no fix and no PSA out, not the player who just plays FFXIV without touching the forum.

[anna-steele]

every single interaction is interrupted by damage in this game, even sometimes spell casting. what would make you or anyone else think in any, way, shape or form, that being able to avoid that mechanic is working as intended, simply because they "dont read the forums". i havent read the forums up until like 2 weeks ago searching for if this ridiculousness was in fact a bug, and i already knew it sure wasnt intended.

gold medal for mental gymnastics, 10/10 stuck the landing

also, as a footnote, i would say the way their GMs handle the cheaters on the forums is the gold standard, as they banned them for cheating.

[BRVV]

Paladin cheese is apparently the way to play!

Couldn't find it in the bugfixes, nor the accepted bugs of 6.2. Thanks Square!

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

every single interaction is interrupted by damage in this game, even sometimes spell casting. what would make you or anyone else think in any, way, shape or form, that being able to avoid that mechanic is working as intended, simply because they "dont read the forums". i havent read the forums up until like 2 weeks ago searching for if this ridiculousness was in fact a bug, and i already knew it sure wasnt intended.

gold medal for mental gymnastics, 10/10 stuck the landing

also, as a footnote, i would say the way their GMs handle the cheaters on the forums is the gold standard, as they banned them for cheating.

Because despite damage interrupting as you say, the covered person never receives the damage to begin with. The exact same can be replicated using PVE Cover on someone interacting with something as AOEs land on them (i.e. Leviathan EX / Unreal water aoes on someone activating barrier). From a normal deduction, Cover preventing interruption is a normal occurance.

I am not denying it is a problem and exceptions should be in place. What I am saying is that without external info, a Paladin simply playing the game will not think of it as cheating but instead just an overpowered strat. They shouldn't be punished for that without warning.

Ignore that last part entirely please, I completely misread the name.

Either way, not cool to just hurl insults like "gold medal for mental gymnastics" while having a civil conversation.

[anna-steele]

i dont know who jamie is and i havent told anyone theyre full of anything, yet the gymnastics continue. no idea why you are trying to defend cheaters but you do you i guess. "From a normal deduction, Cover preventing interruption is a normal occurance." no, it isnt. as there isnt a single ability to prevent interruption in the entire rest of the game outside of the pushback prevention skills that are on a 2 minute cooldown, on top of the fact that if anyone has played any other mmo pvp game ever (highly likely the cheaters have), they would know this is a common game mechanic in every single one of them where you have a channeled ability being interrupted, especially when talking about capturing a node.

2 gold medals in one thread. well done.

i guess if someone found an infinite gil dupe glitch it would be acctepable as well, since they "dont read the forums" and just thought "its an overpowered farming strat". i guess they get off scot free as well, i mean, they didnt know any better after all. its their first game!

is there a platinum medal by chance? or maybe a palladium medal would be most appropriate for those who choose to defend the paladin cheaters.

considering you have a conspiracy about me being someone else though i dont see any reason to continue this discussion with you, you are not thinking clearly to begin with

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

i dont know who jamie is and i havent told anyone theyre full of anything, yet the gymnastics continue. no idea why you are trying to defend cheaters but you do you i guess. "From a normal deduction, Cover preventing interruption is a normal occurance." no, it isnt. as there isnt a single ability to prevent interruption in the entire rest of the game outside of the pushback prevention skills that are on a 2 minute cooldown, on top of the fact that if anyone has played any other mmo pvp game ever (highly likely the cheaters have), they would know this is a common game mechanic in every single one of them where you have a channeled ability being interrupted, especially when talking about capturing a node.

2 gold medals in one thread. well done.

i guess if someone found an infinite gil dupe glitch it would be acctepable as well, since they "dont read the forums" and just thought "its an overpowered farming strat". i guess they get off scot free as well, i mean, they didnt know any better after all. its their first game!

is there a platinum medal by chance? or maybe a palladium medal would be most appropriate for those who choose to defend the paladin cheaters.

considering you have a conspiracy about me being someone else though i dont see any reason to continue this discussion with you, you are not thinking clearly to begin with

As mentioned in the edit, I mistook you for another person by accident.

As mentioned onwards though, I have done nothing to deserve "mental gymnastics" comments from you. I'm trying to be as civil as possible.

Regarding Cover interaction I will test this later in PVE areas. If it is indeed as you say, I will rest my case, but if I can prevent someone from getting interrupted then... well.

Also an infinite-dupe glitch of any sort is not even remotely comparable to an interaction of a game mechanic preventing attacks landing on you.