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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Suddenly it's repeated use? No definition on how to find those of course. 12/12 mental gymnastics there.

    Yeah no, i just don't like people getting banned for no reason, except maybe it's toxic people like you.

    I always question if unsocial people like you behave like that irl. Mad that no one wants to be around you?
    cheating is always investigated by GMs and people are banned manually, not by any automated system fishing for anyone using cover once. do you not know this?

    i dont get why people comment on things they have zero knowledge of. i feel like im on reddit.

    no one wants to be around me? news to me. would you like to be around me? it seems like it, since you implied you would punch me in the face for disagreeing with you online discussing cheaters on a video game. isnt that what you meant by me being "safe behind my PC?"

    not dealing with the brightest bulbs i guess here at the PVP forums.

    FYI no mental gymnastics here at all. focus up please, youre like 0-10 so far in your defense of the cheaters.

    hey, quick question, for those around YOU in real life, do you also threaten them with violence when they disagree with you? or are they also safe behind their PCs?
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    Last edited by anna-steele; 08-24-2022 at 02:55 AM.

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    If the Pala cheese is considered cheating it will be investigated by GMs. The current PVP ability seems to work like the PVE one (at least i heard the PVE one works like that). I want the bug to be fixed but swinging the ban hammer on people while it is not defined as cheating is a terrible solution. It might make players fear to do PVP at all.

    Added: Sorry to step down to the level of OP. I shouldn't have done that
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    If the Pala cheese is considered cheating it will be investigated by GMs. The current PVP ability seems to work like the PVE one (at least i heard the PVE one works like that). I want the bug to be fixed but swinging the ban hammer on people while it is not defined as cheating is a terrible solution. It might make players fear to do PVP at all.

    Added: Sorry to step down to the level of OP. I shouldn't have done that
    you seem to have stepped below my level as i havent made any threats of physical violence. nor did i imply anyone was a lonely anti social loser in real life, among other insults. i only pointed out the twisting people will do to defend their cheating.

    just to set the record straight, since you still cant stay entirely on topic and had to throw in that little quip at the end.
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  4. #54
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    I admit my anger issues. You could admit that you started all this. Yeah i didn't EXCLUSIVELY use the same insults as you did, so what? You want a discussion on what insults feel worse? You were the first one calling names. I hope we can both work on our issues even in difficult times and both improve as people.
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    I admit my anger issues. You could admit that you started all this. Yeah i didn't EXCLUSIVELY use the same insults as you did, so what? You want a discussion on what insults feel worse? You were the first one calling names. I hope we can both work on our issues even in difficult times and both improve as people.
    i didnt call anyone names. saying someone is performing mental gymnastics is not an insult, it is pointing out flawed logic. neither is pointing out the ridiculousness of some hypothetical situation that is likely to never occur.

    anyways its actually my mistake. i forgot we are no longer in an age of personal responsibility or accountability. its the devs fault that the paladins can cheat, not the cheaters themselves, they shouldnt be punished the developers should be. its my fault that you went off on some insulting tangent, not yours.

    always someone elses fault.

    but youre right, i should work on whatever "my issues" are, even though im not the one in the wrong, nor do i have any. well actually i guess my issue is expecting people to use basic logic and reasoning when posting online. again, huge error on my part, ive seen enough of the internet to know better...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    I admit my anger issues. You could admit that you started all this. Yeah i didn't EXCLUSIVELY use the same insults as you did, so what? You want a discussion on what insults feel worse? You were the first one calling names. I hope we can both work on our issues even in difficult times and both improve as people.
    My brother in christ you started this.

    Anyways, the balancing team has essentially put out their official statement with the advent of patch 6.2, meaning cover cheese is perfectly acceptable and an intended mechanic for taking points. Time to pick up paladin for Onsal matches :^)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karasio View Post
    My brother in christ you started this.

    Anyways, the balancing team has essentially put out their official statement with the advent of patch 6.2, meaning cover cheese is perfectly acceptable and an intended mechanic for taking points. Time to pick up paladin for Onsal matches :^)

    Actually, the official statement today was that they need more time to fix Frontline issues.



    In the meantime, one could either try and fight back with cheese or just bring the fight to the cheesers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Actually, the official statement today was that they need more time to fix Frontline issues.



    In the meantime, one could either try and fight back with cheese or just bring the fight to the cheesers.
    4+ months to fix such a simple problem? My opinion of the PvP team falls to new lows each update, what a joke.
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    Generally speaking when I see Paladin. I attack Paladin before they can cheese in Onsal because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Actually, the official statement today was that they need more time to fix Frontline issues.



    In the meantime, one could either try and fight back with cheese or just bring the fight to the cheesers.
    This issue has been around FOR MONTHS. How much more fucking time do they need? Do they have like one intern handling PVP or something? Is that why it's taking so long to get literally any update?
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