Housing Lottery Apology Posters

[Skivvy]

You people do realize that once they pay the NPC, it's no longer a free house - and they are just getting the pictures for voluntarily paying for them, right?

What a vicious circle argument you are making up yourselves. So they pay - then they get more decor that really is small, inconsequential to the bigger picture and frankly, such a small token of an apology it's really questionable to even make it worth it.

But again, if the pictures are only available to those that were affected by the bug, they can easily turn around and sell those paintings for more than the cost of the house. Market prohibited furnishings can still be sold, and people do love their rare/exclusive items. So that would take us back to people getting a free house and now even profiting off of it. Can you imagine if SE sets it up this way and doesn't limit it to a one-time donation/purchase? That seems like a very SE thing to do. lol.

I think the best case would be that the NPC sells to whomever is wanting to pay the price, regardless if they were initially blocked out of the house or not.

[Stormpeaks]

But again, if the pictures are only available to those that were affected by the bug, they can easily turn around and sell those paintings for more than the cost of the house. Market prohibited furnishings can still be sold, and people do love their rare/exclusive items. So that would take us back to people getting a free house and now even profiting off of it. Can you imagine if SE sets it up this way and doesn't limit it to a one-time donation/purchase? That seems like a very SE thing to do. lol.

I think the best case would be that the NPC sells to whomever is wanting to pay the price, regardless if they were initially blocked out of the house or not.

Or this stays an apology and this only goes to the people affected, which it is, leave it be.

[Skivvy]

Or this stays an apology and this only goes to the people affected, which it is, leave it be.

Pfft, why? The free house was plenty, IMO. And now this is potentially opening the door for people to profit even more on top of getting a free house. Although I can't say I'd blame anyone for taking advantage if that is indeed how SE implements this. You do you I suppose. :3

[Bunnycake]

I'm wondering would other players see said NPC if they pass by the person's plot?

[Avoidy]

Honestly, the lottery system has been horrible for the majority of participants from the very start, and now on many servers there are basically no plots left at all. Balmung for example, has 1 plot; it's got over 1000 bidders now. An apology namazu should be mailed to every individual bidder who hasn't won anything as a sort of consolation prize for this bungled and mismanaged system. We didn't make solo FCs because you said you'd open more wards over time and we thought you'd actually do it (or we just like the people in our fc and don't want to leave it, or both of those things!), but by the time you woke up and reacted, you opened an arbitrary amount of wards (i.e. everyone received 10-17, with no consideration for more congested worlds receiving more ward openings like you implied) and you did it so late that within one cycle they were all gone.

Here's a crazy idea. Next time don't hand 75% of the wards to FCs at the start. And then don't pause the bidding system for a month to let people drop out of their FCs to make solo FCs that age up just in time to take advantage of the system. Maybe stop incentivizing people to sit in 1-man FCs in an MMO. I swear to god man, it's not even the posters that I'm bothered by because who cares about some dumb posters; it's that even after the dust has settled and I've sort of just let the whole thing go, you guys can't just stop digging into it. Now you're out here begging forgiveness, from the people who won??? Man, somehow I think they're over it. They literally got a house for free lmao. Maybe issue an apology namazu to everyone who did the ishgard restoration stuff and planned to move there for years, only to get screwed by the lottery and jerked around by SE's bullshit promises about opening more individual wards as needed in the future. Or even better, maybe take like 5% of the profit you made from that dog mount, and add more wards with that money.

It just blows me away, this whole system. Everything they've done in regards to this lottery thing, I would've done the opposite.

[Padudu]

You people do realize that once they pay the NPC, it's no longer a free house - and they are just getting the pictures for voluntarily paying for them, right?

What a vicious circle argument you are making up yourselves. So they pay - then they get more decor that really is small, inconsequential to the bigger picture and frankly, such a small token of an apology it's really questionable to even make it worth it.



Regardless of if you were affected or not - you didn't win the lottery pick. Which means you weren't robbed of a house - you flat out didn't win.

And so what? I was still affected by the bug whether I won or not lol. Everyone who placed a bid still had their gil in limbo. It literally affected all of us the same amount. The only difference is that the winners just have a voluntary option to turn in their gil that they shouldn't have refunded. So they either have a free house or they get compensated items, it seems like a win to me. The people who also had to wait with their gil stuck though? Tough luck, teehee.

To be clear here-- I don't want a free house or anything like that. But it does leave a bitter taste in my mouth that I don't even get the posters for a bug that also affected me, just apparently not enough cause I didn't win.

[Greyhawk]

It doesn't really bother me, but I do feel that those who were affected by this bug (and won their house in the end) were compensated enough. They have a house, which is more than most of the player base can say. Anything more is probably unnecessary. The items themselves aren't an issue. I just question the need for this to happen at all. It makes me scratch my head in slight confusion.

Oh I don't disagree with you there. I was just pointing out the rants of entitlement amongst those others.

And so what? I was still affected by the bug whether I won or not lol. Everyone who placed a bid still had their gil in limbo. It literally affected all of us the same amount. The only difference is that the winners just have a voluntary option to turn in their gil that they shouldn't have refunded. So they either have a free house or they get compensated items, it seems like a win to me. The people who also had to wait with their gil stuck though? Tough luck, teehee.

To be clear here-- I don't want a free house or anything like that. But it does leave a bitter taste in my mouth that I don't even get the posters for a bug that also affected me, just apparently not enough cause I didn't win.

And all you had to do like the rest of us, was go pick up your Gil, just like they said you could do - it wasn't going to affect the outcome.

[P0sitr0nic]

Then they shouldn't have implemented such a terrible housing system.

Ive really never understood this system. Housing is instanced. MAKE MORE.

[Packetdancer]

Ive really never understood this system. Housing is instanced. MAKE MORE.

It is really not that simple.

This game already has an actual physical cap on its pool of available resources; it's not a game built in the cloud where it can dynamically scale resources on-demand. (And not only is it hard to retroactively turn a server architecture like that into a virtualized cloud one, but Lumberyard-based games like Star Citizen and New World demonstrate that having an entirely virtualized server environment can introduce its own new and different problems.)

As it is, with the housing we do have, they have allocated more housing than there are actually servers available to run simultaneously; we saw this during the Endwalker launch, where if enough people were inside their houses the servers could not allocate a new housing interior instance, and if you tried you'd get an error message and be prohibited from entering your house. Even if you had instanced housing (e.g., no need to run housing wards), you'd still have that limitation... and if literally everyone could have a house on demand, you're way more likely to run into that issue.

I will be shocked if it's not possible to overload the Island Sanctuary servers in a similar way, though I'd also expect they've done as much as they can to obscure/hide/avoid that limitation.

You can get around this with things like inn rooms and your Grand Company barracks... but those are handled nearly entirely on the client side; you don't need to allocate any instance on the server, because no one else can come into your inn room or barracks. Housing, by definition, is a thing people want to have others come and visit... even potentially if they're not home/online. Which means it does need actual shared, joinable instances on the server side.

[Padudu]

And all you had to do like the rest of us, was go pick up your Gil, just like they said you could do - it wasn't going to affect the outcome.

I don't know why you're telling me information I already know lol? I am saying that the people who won the house legit was affected just as equally as those who did not. They had to wait the same amount of time to go claim the house as we did to get our refunds. We had to wait just as long to see who actually won too. So again, like I've been saying, it just leaves a bitter taste that they legit ended up with a house for free/compensated items for turning in the gil for a bug that also affected the losers. The people who could see who actually won, or bid solely on a plot and the game reflected that they had won, could claim it immediately and not wait those weeks that the 0 bug people had to.