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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    I just remember it not being there when the Enclave first came out. You now have people who could not even touch the reconstruction of it yet have gone and done the Ivalice raids so they can then unlock Bozja. In order to level up alt jobs or what not. Since you can travel to Gangos from the Enclave aetherite it would have to useable by those rare few.
    Yes, but even without progressing the reconstruction you still have at least two separate visits to the Enclave: immediately after liberating it and then later during the patch quests where things have settled down and you have the opportunity to start the reconstruction questline. I'm pretty sure the aetheryte only appears in that later state of the zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Fine, then if you see people's engagement with the content start dropping then you know what went wrong and that I tried to advocate for the clear and obvious fix.
    If engagement levels drop and the content drops it isn’t going to be attributed to the fact you were required to teleport to an aetheryte that has you within 15 seconds walking distance of the NPC. This is beyond hyperbolic.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    If engagement levels drop and the content drops it isn’t going to be attributed to the fact you were required to teleport to an aetheryte that has you within 15 seconds walking distance of the NPC. This is beyond hyperbolic.
    Aveyond is a pro at being hyperbolic lol.
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  4. #44
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but I can't recall a single time we've been able to teleport to a location that isn't loaded on the servers by Default. For example you can teleport to your house exterior but not the interior as the Wards are always active but the interior is only activated when somebody enters it (and for the same reason you get booted out to the garden after a duty or logging out).

    Pretty sure not being able to teleport straight there is a tech limitation as a trade off for everyone getting one of their own.

    Hopefully they might at least consider adding it to the duty finder menu as a way to enter from anywhere.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholychinchilla View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I can't recall a single time we've been able to teleport to a location that isn't loaded on the servers by Default. For example you can teleport to your house exterior but not the interior as the Wards are always active but the interior is only activated when somebody enters it (and for the same reason you get booted out to the garden after a duty or logging out).

    Pretty sure not being able to teleport straight there is a tech limitation as a trade off for everyone getting one of their own.

    Hopefully they might at least consider adding it to the duty finder menu as a way to enter from anywhere.
    That is indeed the case. Places that you have direct teleport access to are usually continuously loaded by the servers (e.g., housing wards, city-states, and even open world aetherytes). However, this isn't the case with content like Island Sanctuary, and I think given the fact that we cannot TP directly to the interior of our house is pretty solid evidence as to why we will never see direct loading onto the islands. At least not for a very, very long time. So it's definitely not based on lore reasons but really just technical, as you have said.
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  6. #46
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholychinchilla View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I can't recall a single time we've been able to teleport to a location that isn't loaded on the servers by Default. For example you can teleport to your house exterior but not the interior as the Wards are always active but the interior is only activated when somebody enters it (and for the same reason you get booted out to the garden after a duty or logging out).

    Pretty sure not being able to teleport straight there is a tech limitation as a trade off for everyone getting one of their own.

    Hopefully they might at least consider adding it to the duty finder menu as a way to enter from anywhere.
    This might actually be the case that many of us haven't considered. Because yeah we can warp to the ward instance but we can't directly warp into our house/apartment. Again this game's engine isn't optimized well and limitations like this show exactly why.

    This is a different example but it's also the same case why the game takes a while to load FC chest items out in the open because of the engine trying to handle that information that many players can interact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrankyl View Post
    I think there is a huge misconception as to how the instances for these work. From what I understand they are similar to the instances for the inside of apartments, FC Houses, Bozja, and Eureka. All of which you cannot directly teleport into. So essentially what you are asking for if for the ability to teleport right into your House or Apartment, not the outside/on the street outside of it but legit inside of it from anywhere in the world. That's likely never going to be a thing.

    Now could there have been a different way to handle creating these islands? Possibly. I don't know, I'm not a game developer and I don't know the specifics of the engine that SE is running FF14 on. But based on what it's supposed to be like I do believe that was likely their only option at the time.
    Thank you for saying this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Fine, then if you see people's engagement with the content start dropping then you know what went wrong and that I tried to advocate for the clear and obvious fix.
    Careful, your head might burst under your expanding ego. lol The content will determine if people will like it. Not the one teleportation step. Making literal Alps out of mole hills, as per usual.
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    Here's another view of the spot where the NPC will be in relation to where the Aetheryte is. As you can see it's not a long walk at all, they're right next to basically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Considering I can teleport to the doorstep of my FC house where there is no crystal....the lore explanation doesn't really cut it lol. That said, I'm not really bothered by it personally.
    Whoever designed your FC house may just be hiding the mini aetheryte somewhere then because you need one on the property grounds to teleport there but you don't have to interact with it directly so it can be hidden in things.

    As to the OP, I'm willing to wait and see if this is something we unlock since it does make sense to take a boat from an NPC at first as even if it has an aetheryte, it wouldn't be something we had attuned to. I'm not going to immediately jump to oversight, especially when they're proactively instancing Lower La Noscea because they know we're all going to be there. If we don't unlock an aetheryte, then there probably is some technical limitation. It doesn't seem to be an instance like Eureka or Bozja because they mentioned you would be able to queue for things while there, but a 30 minute idle lockout does seem to imply it's not the same behind the scenes as a normal open area.
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