Consistent uwu parties on JP advertising "AM Provided" or "AM Needed"..

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

The funny thing is people saying stuff is so faceroll make it harder and then they cheat. Got to love it.

There's a difference between an actual, well designed challenge, and the horrendously designed gaol mechanic. People aren't interested in artificially hard mechanics, they want actual challenging, but fair ones.
Death of the heavens, which involves the same basic principle of placing fully randomly targeted people with certain mechanics at certain locations in the first half in order to influence the 2nd half of the mechanic, is infinitely well more designed at accomplishing what the Titan Gaol wanted to do than the Titan Gaol itself accomplishes, simply because it gives the players time to react and adjust, and gives room for actual strategizing on how best to tackle it.

[LaylaTsarra]

There's a difference between an actual, well designed challenge, and the horrendously designed gaol mechanic. People aren't interested in artificially hard mechanics, they want actual challenging, but fair ones.
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Cheating is cheating. You don't make the rules.

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

Cheating is cheating. You don't make the rules.

I'm not arguing it isn't. just explaining why your logic of why 'people want harder but then cheese it' is ridiculous. people want fair, well designed challenge. Not artificial difficulty made by bad design.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

I'm not arguing it isn't. just explaining why your logic of why 'people want harder but then cheese it' is ridiculous. people want fair, well designed challenge. Not artificial difficulty made by bad design.

Not directly relevant, but I personally also think that for various people the definition of "cheating" and actually HARD cheating is a bit foggy. Like people call small UI mods cheating already (i.e. buff/debuff timers on partylists or seeing Shield HP on your normal HP+MP UI, or Job Icons in nameplates), which is baffling to me.

Arthars put up this discussion the other day. There is like "soft" stuff that is like "yeah this should already be in the game" and then ofc the memery this one guy put up in Dragonsong's Reprise Ultimate with the zoom hack and the minimap showing all AOEs.

I wish people would stop losing all rationale and benefit of doubt when they see a single thing Yoshi P said a negative thing about.

[Supersnow845]

Not directly relevant, but I personally also think that for various people the definition of "cheating" and actually HARD cheating is a bit foggy. Like people call small UI mods cheating already (i.e. buff/debuff timers on partylists or seeing Shield HP on your normal HP+MP UI, or Job Icons in nameplates), which is baffling to me.

Arthars put up this discussion the other day. There is like "soft" stuff that is like "yeah this should already be in the game" and then ofc the memery this one guy put up in Dragonsong's Reprise Ultimate with the zoom hack and the minimap showing all AOEs.

I wish people would stop losing all rationale and benefit of doubt when they see a single thing Yoshi P said a negative thing about.

God why isn’t shield HP listed in the UI already anyway

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

God why isn’t shield HP listed in the UI already anyway

It isn't even difficullt either, it uses essentially the same tech that the partylist shield uses and just draws an overlay over your Parameter HP. It's brilliant.

[Supersnow845]

It isn't even difficullt either, it uses essentially the same tech that the partylist shield uses and just draws an overlay over your Parameter HP. It's brilliant.

I don’t know when the change happened but the shield length is no longer proportional to your actual HP (so like it used to be if the shield covered 30% of your HP bar and you had 10k HP the shield was about 3k) so I hope they implement that, it would make mitigation planning a specifically around spreadlo so much easier knowing how much I’m actually shielding for

[Saraide]

Not directly relevant, but I personally also think that for various people the definition of "cheating" and actually HARD cheating is a bit foggy. Like people call small UI mods cheating already (i.e. buff/debuff timers on partylists or seeing Shield HP on your normal HP+MP UI, or Job Icons in nameplates), which is baffling to me.

Arthars put up this discussion the other day. There is like "soft" stuff that is like "yeah this should already be in the game" and then ofc the memery this one guy put up in Dragonsong's Reprise Ultimate with the zoom hack and the minimap showing all AOEs.

I wish people would stop losing all rationale and benefit of doubt when they see a single thing Yoshi P said a negative thing about.

Well then those people would have to think for themselves and they dont want that.