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    Consistent uwu parties on JP advertising "AM Provided" or "AM Needed"..

    Stop Cheating and publicly advertising it, has recent events not taught anyone what the consequences are?

    For anyone who doesn't know, "Allagan melon, Allagan markets, Afflatus Misery" and all these abbreviations mean AUTO MARKER a 3rd party plugin that automarks players with the titan GAOL mechanic with a 1, 2 or 3 marker to tell you where to move.

    It is 100% cheating and people should not be using it.

    Titan GAOL is not that hard once you learn the mechanic.

    You do NOT need a 3rd party addon to clear it.
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    Last edited by DixieBellOCE; 08-19-2022 at 03:24 PM.

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    Imagine clearing something with cheats and then being proud of yourself for clearing the content
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin- View Post
    Imagine clearing something with cheats and then being proud of yourself for clearing the content
    I'm currently on titan prog, every single group is using it and it really does not feel rewarding to braindead cheat a mechanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin- View Post
    Imagine clearing something with cheats and then being proud of yourself for clearing the content
    The funny thing is people saying stuff is so faceroll make it harder and then they cheat. Got to love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    The funny thing is people saying stuff is so faceroll make it harder and then they cheat. Got to love it.
    There's a difference between an actual, well designed challenge, and the horrendously designed gaol mechanic. People aren't interested in artificially hard mechanics, they want actual challenging, but fair ones.
    Death of the heavens, which involves the same basic principle of placing fully randomly targeted people with certain mechanics at certain locations in the first half in order to influence the 2nd half of the mechanic, is infinitely well more designed at accomplishing what the Titan Gaol wanted to do than the Titan Gaol itself accomplishes, simply because it gives the players time to react and adjust, and gives room for actual strategizing on how best to tackle it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    There's a difference between an actual, well designed challenge, and the horrendously designed gaol mechanic. People aren't interested in artificially hard mechanics, they want actual challenging, but fair ones.
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    Cheating is cheating. You don't make the rules.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 08-19-2022 at 06:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Cheating is cheating. You don't make the rules.
    I'm not arguing it isn't. just explaining why your logic of why 'people want harder but then cheese it' is ridiculous. people want fair, well designed challenge. Not artificial difficulty made by bad design.
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    Last edited by Daeriion_Aeradiir; 08-19-2022 at 06:13 PM.

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    You will probably need to make a static with like-minded people if you want to avoid using AM. It's pretty much completely standard in any UWU pug, and I doubt that will ever change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    You will probably need to make a static with like-minded people if you want to avoid using AM. It's pretty much completely standard in any UWU pug, and I doubt that will ever change.
    The moment SQE support team actually start doing their jobs that mentality will change real quick.

    They cry for you to not use plugins but refuse to enforce the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    The moment SQE support team actually start doing their jobs that mentality will change real quick.

    They cry for you to not use plugins but refuse to enforce the rules.
    How do you propose they prevent people from using AM?

    The way it works is essentially undetectable, and putting stuff like "bring math" or "allagan melon" in your PF provides plausible deniability. Even if they cracked down on people adverting it in vague terms, people would still just use it and not mention it in game like they already do with ACT.
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