Consistent uwu parties on JP advertising "AM Provided" or "AM Needed"..

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

Cheating is cheating. You don't make the rules.

I'm not arguing it isn't. just explaining why your logic of why 'people want harder but then cheese it' is ridiculous. people want fair, well designed challenge. Not artificial difficulty made by bad design.

[Supersnow845]

How does it not directly affect somebody when other people actively use a cheat plugin in groups.

In fact that IS directly affecting you when they do it in your group.

If it only appeared on their screen, that would not affect anyone but themselves. But that is not what it does.

I mean you are more than welcome to make an UWU party and say “we aren’t using AM” and if it fills go ham

Honestly I have no idea why other people care what others do in game when the people they are annoyed about make the parties, titan gaols is a garbage mechanic regardless I honestly couldn’t care less if the meta is to use AM, I can’t imagine being so fragile as to think that makes my UWU clear feel less impactful

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

I'm not arguing it isn't. just explaining why your logic of why 'people want harder but then cheese it' is ridiculous. people want fair, well designed challenge. Not artificial difficulty made by bad design.

Not directly relevant, but I personally also think that for various people the definition of "cheating" and actually HARD cheating is a bit foggy. Like people call small UI mods cheating already (i.e. buff/debuff timers on partylists or seeing Shield HP on your normal HP+MP UI, or Job Icons in nameplates), which is baffling to me.

Arthars put up this discussion the other day. There is like "soft" stuff that is like "yeah this should already be in the game" and then ofc the memery this one guy put up in Dragonsong's Reprise Ultimate with the zoom hack and the minimap showing all AOEs.

I wish people would stop losing all rationale and benefit of doubt when they see a single thing Yoshi P said a negative thing about.

[Supersnow845]

Not directly relevant, but I personally also think that for various people the definition of "cheating" and actually HARD cheating is a bit foggy. Like people call small UI mods cheating already (i.e. buff/debuff timers on partylists or seeing Shield HP on your normal HP+MP UI, or Job Icons in nameplates), which is baffling to me.

Arthars put up this discussion the other day. There is like "soft" stuff that is like "yeah this should already be in the game" and then ofc the memery this one guy put up in Dragonsong's Reprise Ultimate with the zoom hack and the minimap showing all AOEs.

I wish people would stop losing all rationale and benefit of doubt when they see a single thing Yoshi P said a negative thing about.

God why isn’t shield HP listed in the UI already anyway

[Saraide]

Not directly relevant, but I personally also think that for various people the definition of "cheating" and actually HARD cheating is a bit foggy. Like people call small UI mods cheating already (i.e. buff/debuff timers on partylists or seeing Shield HP on your normal HP+MP UI, or Job Icons in nameplates), which is baffling to me.

Arthars put up this discussion the other day. There is like "soft" stuff that is like "yeah this should already be in the game" and then ofc the memery this one guy put up in Dragonsong's Reprise Ultimate with the zoom hack and the minimap showing all AOEs.

I wish people would stop losing all rationale and benefit of doubt when they see a single thing Yoshi P said a negative thing about.

Well then those people would have to think for themselves and they dont want that.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

God why isn’t shield HP listed in the UI already anyway

It isn't even difficullt either, it uses essentially the same tech that the partylist shield uses and just draws an overlay over your Parameter HP. It's brilliant.

[Supersnow845]

It isn't even difficullt either, it uses essentially the same tech that the partylist shield uses and just draws an overlay over your Parameter HP. It's brilliant.

I don’t know when the change happened but the shield length is no longer proportional to your actual HP (so like it used to be if the shield covered 30% of your HP bar and you had 10k HP the shield was about 3k) so I hope they implement that, it would make mitigation planning a specifically around spreadlo so much easier knowing how much I’m actually shielding for

[Zomkei]

im going to agree with a lot of these other folks and say goal conga is an absolute garbage mechanic that isn't fun or challenging beyond it being a massive clusterfuck that you can barely process. i don't blame the players. i blame SE for designing it. also people seem to forget that yoshi p has stated several times that anti-cheat software is illegal in JP due to it invading your PC.

side note: i have never heard of it being called allagan melon before but thats kind of a cute name.

[Luin]

Anticheat potentially creates vulnerabilities and reduced performance for legitimate users without mitigating cheating.

I think it would be more beneficial for GMs to moderate this more harshly. Something like Nael or Gaol AM is clearly marking people before the thunders or markers are even visible, a GM could see that and action the account doing this if it's reported.

I think we don't have enough GMs, and I think reporting Cheating is too difficult. Why do I have to go to a separate website to report cheating? I only want to fill out a form in-game. This makes reporting very inconvenient. Then, the report goes to the Special Task Force. I feel the language barrier affects the efficacy of my report, or that they're so overworked that it's never resolved.

Yet I would still rather have human GMs.

[Saraide]

im going to agree with a lot of these other folks and say goal conga is an absolute garbage mechanic that isn't fun or challenging beyond it being a massive clusterfuck that you can barely process. i don't blame the players. i blame SE for designing it. also people seem to forget that yoshi p has stated several times that anti-cheat software is illegal in JP due to it invading your PC.

side note: i have never heard of it being called allagan melon before but thats kind of a cute name.

The one I've recently seen in PF is "adorable miqo'te"