Live Letter Thoughts

[VelKallor]

People have gotten bored of them.

I will ( since I seem to have someone who apparently doesnt like my tone ) ask you politely just how you come to that conclusion? Based on what exactly? Was it an article? A letter? Player feedback and if so, from whom?

Im not bored of them, no one I have asked is...so with all due respect, how do you know this?

Keeping them around instead of introducing new characters who can deliver on fresh arcs and diverse personalities/origins wouldn't be to the benefit of the game long term.

Under what criterion? How do you come to that assessment on what is good for the game long term and what isnt?

There is no reason why 6.1 couldn't have picked up the pace by cutting the sequences with G'raha Tia's usual behavior and the other scenes that weren't conducive to getting the player involved in the meat of the upcoming arc

So, no hamburgers then......

[VelKallor]

Xeronia: cutscene after Stigma Dreamscape kind set this up already

[aveyond-dreams]

Subjective Opinion, one that you are more then welcome to have, but thats just not how they decided to tell their story.
Ya'll can be bored while the rest of us can enjoy things. And when(not IF) they introduce new characters, they will come when they are needed and scripted to appear. No sooner, no later.
My faith in this team and game hasn't been forsaken, they keep me excited and curious at every turn.

I wish I was able to share in such faith but at the moment this writing direction has to put in the work to restore the confidence that was lost over the course of 6.0 and 6.1. While the messaging of the base MSQ cannot be fixed at this point, at least giving us new party members this patch gives me something to look forward to.

The comic relief that appears to make up the Omicron Beast Tribe quests and the Relic aren't directly being forced into my field of view in the main story, but it is still quite uncomfortable seeing the Loporrits dance just next to what is known in other languages as the Crater of Martyrs.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

--My reaction is fed up and you're contributing to it by being willfully obtuse.
--See this here? Saying "News Flash!" is also a snippy remark meant to belittle someone before chastising them. It's smart-alec and makes you come off as unpleasant before you even begin to speak. If the posters on here are gonna be both rampant in their tone-policing whilst also being sensitive as the driven snow, then I suppose I'll just have to join y'all. So sorry.
--Seems here it is again, making sure Aveyond knows to state it's their opinion and only theirs. It ends up coming across as more dismissive than helpful. But whatever, maybe it's just me. I'm finished riding your security coattails for the evening.

--Lol, touchy....
--They said ""based on the fact that most if not all RPGs introduce new party members quite early on in the story"" so um..yeah, News Flash, that case isn't relevant to FFXIV because its not "most if not all RPGs" Not really smart imo or chastising. They arn't being put down for it so..
--Is that wrong to do, to state it's their opinion and only theirs? So while saying "Other people" Im just suppose to assume & Know they are only speaking for themselves...while speaking for others? This isn't tone-policing, this is simply what they are saying.
And hey, get off my coat-tails, I just had that Ironed and pressed.

[aveyond-dreams]

Sometimes being "unique" is to a game's detriment rather than providing a positive experience for the player. Oversaturating the cast with scholarly types in the Scions did not create a well-rounded experience nor provide the sort of diversity in terms of both visuals and personalities that once more, are often found in most RPGs.

You can apply this concept to a number of issues with the game, from its "unique" housing system to its main party up until 6.2, to the controversy over limited jobs. At times it best to ground oneself by taking inspiration from readily available sources of media, whether they be other games, books, movies, or shows in order to gain new perspectives and see what people are gravitating towards.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I wish I was able to share in such faith but at the moment this writing direction has to put in the work to restore the confidence that was lost over the course of 6.0 and 6.1. While the messaging of the base MSQ cannot be fixed at this point, at least giving us new party members this patch gives me something to look forward to.

The comic relief that appears to make up the Omicron Beast Tribe quests and the Relic aren't directly being forced into my field of view in the main story, but it is still quite uncomfortable seeing the Loporrits dance just next to what is known in other languages as the Crater of Martyrs.

I know I might come off kinda....idk, like an arse.
But know that I do feel bad and I want you to also enjoy the game. You and whoever else that arn't currently enjoying its direction. I want to think and pretend to know that things will get better. I wasnt big on Arr, but loved HW. I didnt like most of the 1st Arc of SB but thought the later half and Post were amazing, I loved ShB, and founds lots to love about EW, but agree some things wernt that great.
My experience has been 90% a great time, and it is disheartening to hear some people have less of a good time. I want everyone to enjoy this game. You dont have to like Everything, but at least not hate things

[Yeastyloins]

The loops did change, for one. Also using kaiten 3 times in the opener tended to clip horribly.

And if I wanted busy I'd play ninja. I don't, which is why I liked Sam. I moved to DRG instead, less frustrating.

If its clipping then that's either your internet or your own fault. Playing at 2.14 you can comfortably double weave every non-iajutsu GCD unless you have horrendous ping. Hell, during most openers you would need to double weave a something and Third Eye on some fights that have raid wide early in the fights. P3s is an example of this.

[VelKallor]

The comic relief that appears to make up the Omicron Beast Tribe quests

Whah?

I take it you didnt watch the cutscene at the end of Stigma Dreamscape then? That set of quests isnt comic relief, its a tribe questline for gatherers..and if you hadnt seen it, its also to help recreate visions of the lost civilisations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZwWUymqsuU

"This units next task is to analyse the data, and utilise it in recreating remnants of lost civilisations from the depths of Meteion's memories. A cultural salvage operation if you will"

Hearing the songs and voices of those long past? Are you kidding? Id give ANYTHING to hear songs and legends, read the books of races long gone, lost to time...to hear the voice of those who were at the Alexandrian library, ask them what they saw, what they remember....we have lost so much, to even get a chance at that kind of lost knowledge would be priceless.

Seriously...if by some chance you got the chance to sit down and talk to Augustus, Tiberius, Cicero, Livy, Pliny, Tacitus, Diogenes...any number of gifted minds who could tell you first hand what they remember, what they saw, what they experienced..would you take it?

I would in a heartbeat.

How is that in any way comic relief?

[aveyond-dreams]

At numerous points in the discussion there were requests of sources of feedback for the claim that players were growing weary of the scions. I will thus provide the following link.

[Alleo]

At numerous points in the discussion there were requests of sources of feedback for the claim that players were growing weary of the scions. I will thus provide the following link.

So now reddit is not bad and is good for using as a source? Great, time to do some searching.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._somehow_than/
Here we have a thread about Endwalker being better than Shadowbringers with 92% upvotes and quite a few comments.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._much_as_most/
This one is about someone not enjoying Endwalker as much. Only 62% upvotes and under 80 comments.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...one_else_find/
Another person that finds Endwalker boring. 54% upvotes and 51 comments, most of them barely get any upvotes.

And just because I found them, two character polls (Japanese and chinese) after Endwalker

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...dom_character/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...pularity_poll/

Quite a few of the scions are in the upper rankings, so they cant be that bad.