It's time to revaluate paper crown battlementors

[VictorSpoils]

I don't need a paper crown to offer advice, but the roulette demands it be displayed, and as long as there are some juicy rewards for helping out...

BTW, I did check: there are 229 mentor duties (which excludes 57 savage raids, 3 extreme trials, and 4 ultimate raids). Yet it still has the gall to throw me in Praetorium with a trio of trade mentors.

[Shougun]

Make heroes in need, which includes that mount as a reward- everyone can join. Gives like 1 point per completion, doesn't have hard content- simply signs you up for long queue'd content. Unlocking the WoL in need tier allows you to do the hard content, like 3 - 5 points per completion. Both are independent of the mentor system. Though might be associated unlocks to become mentor. PvE Crown with sword, combat mentor will have something like Necromancer, or Ultimates, to unlock, but barrier to entry to want to be helpful, generic type mentor, will not generally increase much over what it already is.

Region, Trade, Etc large room chat link pearls will be optionally obtain-able, to reduce chatter in the NN.

So if you want to be a mentor you can be without being god of content, but for some cultural reason there is expectation the combat knowledge is way up there- so the combat mentor would represent that, if you only care about the mount then you don't need to bother becoming a mentor (making more mentors only the type who wanted to be helpful) - meanwhile you will also have players joining "in need" for content they can reasonably do, as well the chat room tool will be available outside of NN so you can have that too if that's all you're in for.

[hagare]

But why? The system could use some love, and the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

then the complainers should be the mentors.
Since they're so quick to judge and point out what mentors do wrong, surely they would never act the same way right

[DixieBellOCE]

Would like to see a removal of mentors in general.

Crafting mentor:

its 100% counter intuitive to 'help' people craft, if you are a crafter. Why would you want more competition?

Every person i have helped learn to craft, has come back to bite me in the ass and undercut me on niche markets that i use for passive income.

Battle mentor:

Should require a savage tier clear and 10x clears of each 'current' expansion extreme trial.

If people cant clear savage, are they actually in the position to give advice to people that want to learn?

I would much rather ask somebody who has a current tier clear than a guy with a burger king crown that only does expert roulette. One of them knows how to play the game, the other just casually got the crown.

[Tlamila]

If people cant clear savage, are they actually in the position to give advice to people that want to learn?

I would much rather ask somebody who has a current tier clear than a guy with a burger king crown that only does expert roulette. One of them knows how to play the game, the other just casually got the crown.

Oh no, how can you know, if you've never done savage, where to unlock your chocobo? Not to talk about how to unlock dyes and the mechanics of Haukke Manor! Also don't forget to have at least 99 parse in savage, otherwise you could never help a sprout decide which grand company to pick or what is the best method to level up!

[hagare]

Would like to see a removal of mentors in general.

Crafting mentor:

its 100% counter intuitive to 'help' people craft, if you are a crafter. Why would you want more competition?

Every person i have helped learn to craft, has come back to bite me in the ass and undercut me on niche markets that i use for passive income.

Battle mentor:

Should require a savage tier clear and 10x clears of each 'current' expansion extreme trial.

If people cant clear savage, are they actually in the position to give advice to people that want to learn?

I would much rather ask somebody who has a current tier clear than a guy with a burger king crown that only does expert roulette. One of them knows how to play the game, the other just casually got the crown.

hey, you're back in tonberry. Welcome back.
You should be a mentor. NN could use some new blood

[Jojoya]

Would like to see a removal of mentors in general.

Crafting mentor:

its 100% counter intuitive to 'help' people craft, if you are a crafter. Why would you want more competition?

Every person i have helped learn to craft, has come back to bite me in the ass and undercut me on niche markets that i use for passive income.
[B]

I have no problems helping others learn how to craft. Not every crafter is out to sell for max profit. Many learn to craft solely for self use. Others are trying to make useful items available at affordable (yet still profitable) prices.

Competition is healthy for an economy. Even as a seller, I like seeing it happen. If what I'm selling drops in value enough to no longer be profitable, I'll switch to different items. Or I'll keep selling at my preferred price to create a price ceiling so items stay affordable for the intended buyers (assuming it's not a rare luxury item, then I'm more than happy to drive the price up). Somehow my items will still sell, if less often, even when I'm getting undercut.

If those you teach somehow just happen to stumble on your niche markets, you're probably doing something that lets them know what you're selling. There's far too many different items to be crafting for someone to intentionally seek out a specific player's niche without advance knowledge of the type of items they specialize in. Either that or your niche isn't as niche as you think. The only times I've had to move away from one of my niches was when the items suddenly started showing up in Quick Ventures.

[UkcsAlias]

Would like to see a removal of mentors in general.

Crafting mentor:

its 100% counter intuitive to 'help' people craft, if you are a crafter. Why would you want more competition?

Then you did the wrong advise. You can tell them to focus on such markets, but never reveal the ones you have!

Every person i have helped learn to craft, has come back to bite me in the ass and undercut me on niche markets that i use for passive income.

Eventualy this can happen on every market, and the effects can last a while.

If you give any indication of the items you use, they will find those items. And if you used that for passive income by being well above the 'acceptable' price, this is a direct result of that. Its also not too difficult for a new crafter to spot a lot of such markets. As in plenty of cases you will see those items on the market anyway, and wonder why the price is that high. Once you discover you can craft a bunch and sell it cheaper, you generaly will have that market occupied for a while (easily months). This means that either you just focus on a diffirent one until it calms down, or you just undercut and accept a lower profit.

Usualy when i see such market, i already predict the undercutting to happen at some point, and therefor plan based on that. Knowing my minimal price well ahead in time. This allows me to be a lot more aggressive in selling, and simply scare the others from trying to get back into that market again (sure, profits are lower, but its still profit then. yet the aggressive price drops make it appear highly unreliable).

[Bukachu]

Would like to see a removal of mentors in general.

Crafting mentor:

its 100% counter intuitive to 'help' people craft, if you are a crafter. Why would you want more competition?

Every person i have helped learn to craft, has come back to bite me in the ass and undercut me on niche markets that i use for passive income.

I mean yeah, mentoring would mean you share your knowledge and teach others your ways.

if you're too bothered about it affecting your profits, you could you know, just not be a mentor.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Would like to see a removal of mentors in general.

Crafting mentor:

its 100% counter intuitive to 'help' people craft, if you are a crafter. Why would you want more competition?

Every person i have helped learn to craft, has come back to bite me in the ass and undercut me on niche markets that i use for passive income.

Battle mentor:

Should require a savage tier clear and 10x clears of each 'current' expansion extreme trial.

If people cant clear savage, are they actually in the position to give advice to people that want to learn?

I would much rather ask somebody who has a current tier clear than a guy with a burger king crown that only does expert roulette. One of them knows how to play the game, the other just casually got the crown.

Teaching someone to craft and them being able to make money from it are two different things. I know plenty of crafters that have no clue how to make money at max level.