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  1. #121
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    OM3GA-Z3RO's Avatar
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    Celestria Thurmand
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    Zodiark
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    They should remove the carrot on the stick and change the Mentor crown into a watering can (To stick to the theme with a sprout).

    After that we will see many fake mentors taking it off and the real mentors will stay to do what mentors are meant to do: "Giving new players solid advice and guidance as well as helping them when in need."
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  2. #122
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    Striker44's Avatar
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    Elmind Exilus
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    Would like to see a removal of mentors in general.

    Crafting mentor:

    its 100% counter intuitive to 'help' people craft, if you are a crafter. Why would you want more competition?

    Every person i have helped learn to craft, has come back to bite me in the ass and undercut me on niche markets that i use for passive income.

    Battle mentor:


    Should require a savage tier clear and 10x clears of each 'current' expansion extreme trial.

    If people cant clear savage, are they actually in the position to give advice to people that want to learn?

    I would much rather ask somebody who has a current tier clear than a guy with a burger king crown that only does expert roulette. One of them knows how to play the game, the other just casually got the crown.
    Say what??? Mentors are intended to be there to help sprouts with basic questions about the game. You don't need to have cleared savage or extreme anything to be able to do that, nor would sprouts likely be asking about anything like that. Someone who's never done a savage can still answer basic questions sprouts are likely to ask regarding roulettes, grand companies, aetherytes, etc.. They can give the simple kind of advice sprouts need for using mitigation, oGCD heals, etc.. None of that requires savage experience.

    Frankly, if I was asking a question about roulettes, I'd rather get advice from the person who does a ton of roulettes than the one whose mind is focused on savage or extreme content.
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  3. #123
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    LianaThorne's Avatar
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Maduin
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    Would like to see a removal of mentors in general.

    Crafting mentor:

    its 100% counter intuitive to 'help' people craft, if you are a crafter. Why would you want more competition?

    Every person i have helped learn to craft, has come back to bite me in the ass and undercut me on niche markets that i use for passive income.

    Battle mentor:


    Should require a savage tier clear and 10x clears of each 'current' expansion extreme trial.

    If people cant clear savage, are they actually in the position to give advice to people that want to learn?

    I would much rather ask somebody who has a current tier clear than a guy with a burger king crown that only does expert roulette. One of them knows how to play the game, the other just casually got the crown.
    First point: Sorry someone undercut you, let me play you a song on the world's smallest violin. Everyone undercuts everyone, that's how selling works in this game because they made crafting extremely easy that you don't need much brainpower to do it properly. Taking away crafting mentors won't fix your problem unless they rework crafting to no longer be macro-able.

    Second point: No. Clearing savage does nothing to prove you're a capable player unless you have the logs to back it up. People literally pay for clears, especially in harder content like Savage and Ultimate. If those are the type of people you want as mentors then be my guest but good luck learning anything other than how to open your wallet, be a leech and stand in Limsa flashing a weapon at people.

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    If ya'll want capable mentors in things then the process itself of selecting them needs to be changed to manual reviews of each applicant by a GM or some sort of interview process to weed out people who don't care other than wanting a symbol over their heads.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 07-30-2022 at 12:55 AM.

  4. #124
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    Bukachu's Avatar
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    Buka Chu
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    Raiden
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    First point: Sorry someone undercut you, let me play you a song on the world's smallest violin. Everyone undercuts everyone, that's how selling works in this game because they made crafting extremely easy that you don't need much brainpower to do it properly. Taking away crafting mentors won't fix your problem unless they rework crafting to no longer be macro-able.

    Second point: No. Clearing savage does nothing to prove you're a capable player unless you have the logs to back it up. People literally pay for clears, especially in harder content like Savage and Ultimate. If those are the type of people you want as mentors then be my guest but good luck learning anything other than how to open your wallet, be a leech and stand in Limsa flashing a weapon at people.

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    If ya'll want capable mentors in things then the process itself of selecting them needs to be changed to manual reviews of each applicant by a GM or some sort of interview process to weed out people who don't care other than wanting a symbol over their heads.
    Isnt it against the rules to sell/buy boosts?
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  5. #125
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bukachu View Post
    Isnt it against the rules to sell/buy boosts?
    Buying a clear with gil or other in-game rewards is fine. Paying with actual cash or outside items is a no-no (but still happens).
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  6. #126
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Say what??? Mentors are intended to be there to help sprouts with basic questions about the game. You don't need to have cleared savage or extreme anything to be able to do that, nor would sprouts likely be asking about anything like that..
    Exactly that, idk why ppl expect world first players for mentors only, mean while players on lv 80+ STILL CANT STACK or know your gear 101 etc...
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  7. #127
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    Alpha Lupi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Buying a clear with gil or other in-game rewards is fine. Paying with actual cash or outside items is a no-no (but still happens).
    You can't advertise you are selling clears. Buying yes.
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  8. #128
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    Catwho's Avatar
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 100
    I turned off the mentor crown.

    I still shout mechanics in alliance raid. People are frankly more likely to listen to me without it.

    I keep mentor status active so I can direct traffic in Novice Network, and torture myself in mentor roulette on occasion. (One of my friends is trying to do 5 mentor roulettes a day right now. He's insane. He also has some extremely choice words about Ratholos Ex....)
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  9. #129
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    SweetestLily's Avatar
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    Darling Doll
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    Jenova
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    Sage Lv 100
    Mentor crown is useless. Even if the mentor knows what they are doing people in this game take politely given advice as if you just threw acid in their face no matter how much you honey your words. I've also seen mentors who have tried to teach mechanics in a fight saying the completely wrong way to do things and be corrected by non mentors. Remove the crown and give sprouts a proper guide to learn in the game.
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  10. #130
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    Veranolth Dawnglimmer
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    Behemoth
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    I turned off the mentor crown.

    I still shout mechanics in alliance raid. People are frankly more likely to listen to me without it.

    I keep mentor status active so I can direct traffic in Novice Network, and torture myself in mentor roulette on occasion. (One of my friends is trying to do 5 mentor roulettes a day right now. He's insane. He also has some extremely choice words about Ratholos Ex....)
    I don't wanna brag but 5 mentor roulettes a day is nothing. I was doing 20 or 30 per day when I was grinding them for the Astrope, and my FC leader was also doing that many when he grinded for his. I even went as far as doing 50 a day for the last 100 mentor roulettes, now that was insanity.
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