Changes to Savage with 6.2

[ZedxKayn]

You don't need years to get good at it, but just means that after years of playing it you can be very good at it.

As a very new sprout I honestly had trouble with the level 14 solo battle. I wasn't used to how to cast spells, how to dodge, how enemy AOEs worked. I think I failed it two or three times before I completed it.

If I replay it now, it's an absolute breeze and I easily understand what to do. But back then, I didn't.

Well, this is about savage, not level 14 content. When you're at the point where you're doing savage, there isn't much room to "gradually improve over the years" anymore, because the skill ceiling is very low and simply reading a job guide (which anyone hopping into savage should do) will have people damn near hitting that ceiling in weeks, not even months, let alone years. Because everything is static PvE and kits do not interact with each other or anything else aside itself, learning this game is very fast, as it is rather shallow.

[DrWho2010]

Well, this is about savage, not level 14 content. When you're at the point where you're doing savage, there isn't much room to "gradually improve over the years" anymore, because the skill ceiling is very low and simply reading a job guide (which anyone hopping into savage should do) will have people damn near hitting that ceiling in weeks, not even months, let alone years. Because everything is static PvE and kits do not interact with each other or anything else aside itself, learning this game is very fast, as it is rather shallow.

everyone learns at their own pace and not everyone raids savage all the time you know. there's knowing your job and then there's also wrapping your head around mechanics too. that can be difficult for some people.

[Shuuli]

I don't understand this post. I am not a hardcore raider. I just started while most people already cleared yet I already have 4 jobs on ilevel 600 full BIS.. so explain how this specific change will ruin the crafted gear?

[localareanetwork]

I got curious and looked at your character. Find it quite ironic you're making this post given you cleared this tier on 6.1 and not 6.0.

Please don't let clears get to your head.

[technole]

I got curious and looked at your character. Find it quite ironic you're making this post given you cleared this tier on 6.1 and not 6.0.

Please don't let clears get to your head.

LOL. That explains their derogatory comment about door bosses, probably triggered by Pinax memes.

To think they were really worried about crafted gear.

[MilkieTea]

LOL. That explains their derogatory comment about door bosses, probably triggered by Pinax memes.

To think they were really worried about crafted gear.

My whole raid group is one big pinax meme. We'd have gotten to phase 2 if it werent for me dying to Lightning 2.

[Renalt]

This should be interesting kupo <3 i might do this now just go in tanking in my birthday suit and a giant zweihandler kupo <3 rofl

So I did Ultima last night in my underwear and my axe. I was Ilvl 95 with just the weapon so I figured it'd be a decent fight...

nope...

I straight up got it to 0.1 HP almost immediately and had to just sit there as they pull theatrics and go through the entire phase of Titan and Garuda. I got some push-ups in while waiting on him to figure out he was already dead.

[MrSigy]

I got curious and looked at your character. Find it quite ironic you're making this post given you cleared this tier on 6.1 and not 6.0.
Please don't let clears get to your head.

Please don't let clears get to your head.

To respond with your amount of intelligence and not be a better person:
Congratulations on clearing a savage tier a month and 7 days behind me.
"Please don't let clears get to your head."

If you really want to make a effort learn to use fflogs correctly and figure out which were my alts that I used on chaos, it's pretty easy since I cleared both savage and ultimate with the same group.
But even funnier since you don't seem to realise and try to bash me for clearing this tier in 6.1 on a ... alt.

No? E8S was probably the hardest savage fight we ever got since Midas.

Personally I never found e8s to be hard, it just was perceived harder because it was the 2nd tier where there wasn't a doorboss so people took longer to learn p2.
in e8s the dps check was slighty overtuned and that was mostly because people were not using uptime strategies because you are rushing to kill it.

OP is trying to make something out of nothing. Won't affect savage week 1 clears. Majority of good players who actually clear savage tier are in the weeks 2-4 up to before the catch-up patch on month 3.

OP is not complaining but explaining why for him it is a big deal, I am really sorry that for you it isn't but for me it is. It's just different opinions but at least respect mine as I respect yours.
But seeing your responses to earlier where your small mind started bashing my alt one does not need to concern oneself with your opinions anymore.
Saying it won't affect w1 clears is like saying putting mayo on fries doesn't do anything.

[MrSigy]

I don't understand this post. I am not a hardcore raider. I just started while most people already cleared yet I already have 4 jobs on ilevel 600 full BIS.. so explain how this specific change will ruin the crafted gear?

So unless crafted gear will get extra Ilvl the crafted weapon already will be 1 wpndmg or 5ilvl behind the new ex trial weapon.
Since you have x amounts of weeks of tomes you can skip certain pieces and just buy the new tome gear.
Since you can skip x amounts of pieces, with no need to buy them, they become less valuable even useless for clearing savage.

Hope that explains it.

[MrSigy]

My whole raid group is one big pinax meme

Find the pattern you are struggling with and come up with a way to get consistant at it.
Talking to other people how they deal with it.
Pinax thunder poison can be solved by only having 1 healer/melee moving into the lightning part and pre-communicate this.

Tbh the doorboss in p4s is prolly more annoying then the last one especially if you aren't progging it should go pretty quickly.