Thread: Changes to Savage with 6.2

New tomestones out at 6.2 but savage is not being released at this point so you have more weeks of tomestones going into savage.

With the extreme trial also being released this means that on savage release you will be have x amounts of tomestones in your bag for gear and extreme trial weapon with +5ilvl above the crafted weapon.

This has 2 effects,

First it makes savage even easier then before with the health gain from ilvl upgrades compared to previous tiers.

Secondly the already non-existant dps check will be even less existant.

Tldr:
I do not mind savage being pushed back a week or two after a patch update but please don't ruin the crafted gear/tomestones/trail iteration that has been existing since stormblood. If you really want to do something to savage remove that stupid doorboss checkpoint or add a piece of upgrade loot to the doorboss which is something we actually have been asking for a long time instead.

anybody tried running dungeons butt naked? Will it still give you an ilvl template or just if below max ilvl let the ilvl remain? curious to see if a naked warrior could hold his own in ARR LOL jk kupo <3

Originally Posted by Doc_Seraph

anybody tried running dungeons butt naked? Will it still give you an ilvl template or just if below max ilvl let the ilvl remain? curious to see if a naked warrior could hold his own in ARR LOL jk kupo <3

I'll take that bet. I feel my weapon alone would equate to perhaps ILevel 130 ish...so I can see it being soloable with my abilities. I'll let ya know how it goes...for better or worse.

Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir

It's also amusing you say non-existent dps checks when both E8s & E12s (E8s especially) had relatively tight ones to the point most world racers were struggling on E8s's one. The first tier is always underbalanced due to no EX weapons and wanting people to get used to changes in their jobs on new expansion, then the 2nd & 3rd tiers up the ante. And if you're not talking about week 1 kills/world racers then this whole tome thing is irrelevant, since it's the only set of groups that this would affect the most in terms of making things easier.

So ill break it up since you are mixing up a few things

- first tier of a expansion is always underbalanced, I disagree the jobs aren't balanced, same way in e4s ast and nin were gutted and not up to par with mnk and drg. It's not the fight which are underbalanced it's the jobs that aren't balanced towards each other performance. this tier it would be pld versus other tanks, white mage being behind on healers, mnk being ahead of other jobs while ninja was behind again, smn for casters and mch for ranged jobs.

- your A point: there was always a decision you had to make for yourself as a static do we take time to get ex weapons or do we just ignore it. All the time you would ignore it even in e8s, e12s. But you had to make a choice. Now there is no choice you farm the ex weapons beforehand to go into savage as there is nothing else to do. By this point you have already +1 wpndmg and 9 vit then in the past.

- your B point: Sorry I don't remember the last time I actually bought a tome weapon for clearing savage content. You don't need it so I never bothered with it. Anyway you feed your dps gear as much as possible anyway so I don't see where this one was going.
But just assume it's more vitality anyway so again making dropping the dmg down. atleast the healing side of things, I haven't felt a challenge as a healer in well forever even in DRU, it's just oh you have mitigation congratulation you pass. A real hard healing check with continual damage, honestly I don't remember one maybe titan e4s and then only the last phase. In DRU I felt more like oh right they've made akh morns edge go faster then the internal gcd of lily or panheima so you every hit doesn't trigger but then on the shockwave when saving estinien they completedly ignored that part.

Originally Posted by Hypn0tyk

Each raid team can also get an i630 tome weapon before p8s if the tomes come out a week early.

You make a good point here aswell.

Originally Posted by Kazhar

If tomestone and crafting gear aren't released the same day as savage we will be officially in unknown territory. So, maybe they slightly increased week one savage difficulty too?.

This game in savage just seems to be getting easier and easier over time.