Ardbert's Party vs the Scions Analysis

[CrownySuccubus]

And how would it propose to forcefully impose said changes unless the developers agreed that these are issues and that the proposed changes are the best way forward? That is assuming that I run with your massive reach here, which would apparently even include calling the writing shallow.

I'm not sure why you think that something doesn't count as a "demand" or "forceful" unless the other party relents to it. You can forcefully demand something, and the other person can choose to ignore it. That doesn't make the demand any less forceful.

I was actually taking it in the direction that you seem to have a vendetta against certain posters here, rather than that you share his beliefs, and that your concern over the absoluteness of certain claims is more a window dressing as opposed to anything else.

Again, I'm not the person living so rent free that I'm sub-tweeting in other threads or making whole new threads to misrepresent someone else's arguments.

We won't be communicating an awful lot in the future, so what you choose to believe going forward is of little consequence to me.

....kay.

[Lauront]

I'm not sure why you think that something doesn't count as a "demand" or "forceful" unless the other party relents to it. You can forcefully demand something, and the other person can choose to ignore it. That doesn't make the demand any less forceful.

So basically there is no real means or intent to "forcefully" impose anything, understood. Merely leaving a business poor feedback could be construed as "forceful" under such a watered down definition. The graveyard of "forceful" demands that Yoshi and his team have refused to cater to should be evidence of how meaningless any claims regarding "imposing" one's wishes are, and gaming companies are no stranger to consumers with views on what should be done, which once more, they routinely bury. Sometimes for better, sometimes for worse. At best, you hope the developer might notice matters have soured if disposition is growing more negative in tone, and listen more closely that something is awry, e.g. with healer feedback, and it is in that spirit which feedback is offered. But the idea that the developer is having their arm twisted to do so in any meaningful sense beyond trying to get their consumers to stay is risible.

At any rate, it's clear to me that there was never really any substance behind this beyond Striker disliking how certain things are worded.

[CrownySuccubus]

So basically there is no real means or intent to "forcefully" impose anything, understood.

Again, you can use whatever semantics you want.

At best, you hope the developer might notice matters have soured if disposition is growing more aggressive, and listen more closely that something is awry, e.g. with healer feedback.

Right. Especially if you present yourselves as people making that "more aggressive" (but not "forceful") feedback.

At any rate, it's clear to me that there was never really any substance behind this beyond Striker disliking how certain things are worded.

Again:

....kay.

[Lauront]

Again, you can use whatever semantics you want.



Right. Especially if you present yourselves as people making that "more aggressive" (but not "forceful") feedback.



Again:

....kay.

Yawn. Good night.

[CrownySuccubus]

Yawn. Good night.

Oh no, he yawned.

OOPS missed this earlier:

Who's using weasel words now? Garlemald is framed as the stereotypical "evil empire that dominates those it thinks its lessers" which is a Final Fantasy staple. Multiple times has favoring this faction been stated to be wrong or immoral, and never once has anyone who claims to favor it ever stated why. I don't blame 'em, considering the results so far why bother inviting more misery upon oneself? Regardless, one could like Garlemald for its bloody fashion sense and be ridiculed for it here, but I've stopped caring as some on this Forum aren't open to discussing in good faith. Same with Ascian Rejoinings and the Great Sundering, but I'm not gonna pursue that thread again as I'm rather weary of debating morals with brick walls.

First of all, I don't think you know what "weasel words" are.

Second of all, what does any of this have to do with "genocide apologia"?

Third of all, I have flat out said that it's perfectly valid to like Garlemald because of its fashion sense and cool technology.

Fourth of all, I have never said that merely liking the faction is wrong or immoral.


So once again, please explain to me what any of this has to do with "genocide apologia" -- something I never said.