Why a beast tribe allowance?

[Simple_Barghest]

Because gamers have terrible self-control.
See: WoW ditching daily quest limits for a time and people immediately spending days without sleep just grinding out daily quests.
There's a solution - they could just increase the amount of Beast Tribe Allowance (and also imo, Levequest Allowance) you access on a given day. But there's precedent for limiting some of these things, which I'm undoubtedly going to get shat on for saying as such. You can't trust some people to limit themselves.

[GoatOfWar]

Because gamers have terrible self-control.
See: WoW ditching daily quest limits for a time and people immediately spending days without sleep just grinding out daily quests.
There's a solution - they could just increase the amount of Beast Tribe Allowance (and also imo, Levequest Allowance) you access on a given day. But there's precedent for limiting some of these things, which I'm undoubtedly going to get shat on for saying as such. You can't trust some people to limit themselves.

It has absolutely nothing to do with ethics. They just don't want you to play through all content early, because that means they would be missing out on those juicy resubs. It's just a business model, and every relevant MMO does this.

[Rilifane]

Because if there was no limit to how many times you could complete Beast Tribe quests, you could farm up the Rep and get the mounts and other special items all in a day.

No you couldn't because the 12 allowances is an additional limitation to the individual limitation of each beast tribe.
You could have 100 allowances per day, as long as you can only do 3 Pixie dailies per day (6 with a rank up), you'll not getting anything done within a day.

Timegating keeps your sub running.
With how many beast tribes we now have, 12 per day is laughable but it ensures that you stay subbed in order to get all the beast tribe goodies. Let's not pretend this is out of sheer worry for their players' health and that we'd suddenly drop down dead because we forgot to eat if they increased it by a bit or removed some of the oldest beast tribes from counting towards your allowance.

[Deveryn]

It only takes a couple of weeks to max the tribes (at least in Stormblood and beyond), so we're not likely to see an increase. It's all about prioritizing.

btw, it's funny seeing people bringing up subs as if to sound woke. It's an MMO! Of course subscription will be encouraged!

[Izar_Chillen]

No you couldn't because the 12 allowances is an additional limitation to the individual limitation of each beast tribe.
You could have 100 allowances per day, as long as you can only do 3 Pixie dailies per day (6 with a rank up), you'll not getting anything done within a day.

Timegating keeps your sub running.
With how many beast tribes we now have, 12 per day is laughable but it ensures that you stay subbed in order to get all the beast tribe goodies. Let's not pretend this is out of sheer worry for their players' health and that we'd suddenly drop down dead because we forgot to eat if they increased it by a bit or removed some of the oldest beast tribes from counting towards your allowance.

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Its long over due that they slightly revamp the BtQs to allow you do do a full run across expansion zones of each tribe keeping to its current 3 dailies per tribe ( or the 5 or 6 in the ARR zones once rep is high enough), and it would be nice to also have perhaps say the old expansions bar the current to have a system like the Bicolour Gems the map/crafting/materia vendors have in ShB so that its one Beast currency , keeping the current EW expansion as the unique tribe named currency.

[NekoMataMata]

The reason is to keep you playing a longer period of time simple as that.



It's optional content so there is no need to catch-up. That stuff is there to keep us busy. A player just need to pick the ones they find the most interesting (lore or reward wise) and stick with those. Once that's done move to the next ones. FFXIV it's a MMO, IMO it's ok for some side content to take a "long" (not really) period of time.

You said it yourself, FFXIV is a MMO. It's not a regular RPG. Generally speaking you want to be able to play with the other players in-game and when most other players are sitting in later expansions, that can create a bit of a rift. The game usually does a good job of making sure older content doesn't outright die but it's not quite the same.

[ACE135]

You need about 3 weeks to complete a Beast Tribe, I think. So a new player can complete 4 Beast Tribes in 3 Weeks. In my opinion that's reasonable. I don't know anymore if ARR and HW Beast Tribes take a bit longer but even then it would be fast enough.

[Driavna]

You said it yourself, FFXIV is a MMO. It's not a regular RPG. Generally speaking you want to be able to play with the other players in-game and when most other players are sitting in later expansions, that can create a bit of a rift. The game usually does a good job of making sure older content doesn't outright die but it's not quite the same.

And beast tribes don't block any mportant since it's all side content. If a new player wants to focus on current ones that option is there.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Only ARR beast tribes get seriously limited by the allowance, anything past it has hard cap of 3 per day per tribe anyway.

There's no reason to use dev time for this though, when there are so many more important things that need work.

Not necessarily? You do realize the max rep for ARR tribes (sans Ixal) is Rank 4 right? You quickly max them out due to the increasing amount of quest givers you get after each rank up. It has a deceptive slow start for sure, but you do actually max their ranks much faster than current tribes.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I'm apathetic to the idea of removing the allowance cap, but wouldnt be complaining if thats something they do anyway, I feel like not only have it in place as an incentive to keep subscribing but to also better pace players from themselves who Im sure people will wind up complaining that there's "too many dailies". But you dont HAVE to do them you may say. Yeah, just try saying that to players who get themselves burnt out of the game.

I have a few ideas, after reading through some of people's reasonings with the current system.

1. Just increase allowance cap; it makes sense due to the amount of tribes we have in the current game and it would be overwhelming to new players who just started on doing tribal quests. I think just giving us 3 or 6 extra more should do fine.

2. Rework ARR Tribal quests; Honestly the real reason why ARR tribes are the worst to do is due to many runarounds you have to do in order to complete even a single quest. Catching specific Fates, equipping an item, be this class to catch a specific fish, gather these items with this class, go talk to these numerous npcs, etc. The quest pacing is absolutely awful, and it gets worse with the Ixal due to how many you get to do in a single day. I say, rework the whole quest system for those tribes to be less annoying and more straight forward. I guarantee people will find the daily grind less tedious to do.