To Tanks Who only pull One Mob at a Time......

[Misplaced_Marbles]

Thats true but that wasnt necessarily a "baby tank" doing those big pulls now was it? It certainly gave the fresh healer I assume a bit of an adrenaline rush so they only really had to worry about keeping a tank who knew the dungeon layoutn and what they were doing.

Yeah, and i'd really like to know how one gets a "rush" spamming the one and only healing spell available in the first dungeon. Not like it changes anything if there's more than one group of enemies, other than perhaps having less time to use the two attack spells. Yay...

[Atelier-Bagur]

Yeah, and i'd really like to know how one gets a "rush" spamming the one and only healing spell available in the first dungeon. Not like it changes anything if there's more than one group of enemies, other than perhaps having less time to use the two attack spells. Yay...

I wasnt talking about that. I was just referring to the example the poster said about taking newcomers, when really the only person in that party that had to worry was the healer. Tank knew what they were doing, dps only need to worry about keeping up and doing their very limited rotations, healer however had to deal with quickly learning to dps and heal the tank. Unless the healer spend the rest of the pull just healing anyway. But if the healer said they were fine then thats all that matters. However I had examples where I had baby healers where I asked if they were good for big pulls, they said sure but then we had a hiccup and they decided to go back to small pulls.

Im just saying to come up with better examples of complete newbies doing a dungeon for the first time with the w2w advice. I know when I first got into tanking in an MMO ever, it took me a while to obtain that level of confidence and skills to realize how to do dungeons, and it was thanks to people's patience that allowed me to always do wall to wall. Just basic communication in what you're doing is all it takes.

[justausername]

You know. Some of us dont actually LIKE tanking and just want to get all the classes to 90. Thats a thing. So if you don't like it, leave. Odds are at least one other person in the party is from my FC if not 2. Sometimes in a small FC we wont get 3 others online at the same time. So just let me level in peace and get it over with, I'm already considering a job skip but I can't afford it thanks.

[Asari5]

just because you dont like tanking doesnt mean you have only to do the bare minimum.
and there are other ways to lvl your jobs... so you wouldnt have to tank for real people... or you can go to bozja using lost skills and play your tank as a dps

[Deo14]

You know. Some of us dont actually LIKE tanking and just want to get all the classes to 90. Thats a thing. So if you don't like it, leave. Odds are at least one other person in the party is from my FC if not 2. Sometimes in a small FC we wont get 3 others online at the same time. So just let me level in peace and get it over with, I'm already considering a job skip but I can't afford it thanks.

This is the kind of people SE listens to. People who play job or role even though they don't like them. Seriously, you have 19 jobs in game, stop forcing yourself to play the ones you dislike just because of some dumb mount or achievement.

And if you really insists on leveling those jobs in DF, where your mediocre performance affects other players, just learn the very basics of the goddamn job. Stop pretending that it's rocket science, just spend 10-15 minutes reading tooltips and you will understand how any job works. If reading is too hard for you, watch some youtube guides.

[Reinha]

Uhm... Wouldn't you prefer to spend less time doing something you dislike? I hate grinding the PvP series rewards but the more matches I win the faster I can move on to something more fun.

[Bsrking5]

This hasn't died yet? Its SE designed, so tanks can choose to pull one mob group at a time and healers can ignore doing dps to just heal rarely, or never in 81-89. Don't like the group, leave, the group doesn't like one member, kick em. Get kicked a lot for one pulling, make your own group.

[Merrigan]

You know. Some of us dont actually LIKE tanking and just want to get all the classes to 90. Thats a thing. So if you don't like it, leave. Odds are at least one other person in the party is from my FC if not 2. Sometimes in a small FC we wont get 3 others online at the same time. So just let me level in peace and get it over with, I'm already considering a job skip but I can't afford it thanks.

Worst excuse ever.

I don't mind tanks pulling pack after pack when there is a good reason. Sometimes the tank is new, or just wants a slower pace for reason X or Y (lag, for example). For this reason, I never allow myself to go forwards, because I implicitly assume that a tank at ease already knows that rush is usual in this game. So he has a reason not to pull everything.

On the other hand, when you start building a class, implicitly you should try to play it as well as possible. We're not asking you to do purple or orange parses; just to put in a little effort. If you are not prepared to make that effort, please only play with members of your guild, or with NPCs.

[Tlamila]

I personally think it's disrespectful to assume that sprout = can't handle anything, and to then run every dungeon like that. A sprout is learning, not stupid. If you coddle them, they're never gonna learn. It's like teaching a baby how to swim - while you're not tossing them into the deep blue ocean immediately, you're definitely not holding them so they can't even float. Treating sprouts like they're incompetent is basically like holding a baby up above the water so they'll never learn to swim on their own.

Fun thing, when I started tanking (I wasn't a sprout, but still very much a sprout tanking-wise) I used to pull small out of fear. One day in Sastasha roulette I get an healer who keeps pulling more and telling me to pull more. It made me so angry cause back then I was a believer of pulling small to be more comfortable and all. Manwhile healer was all cheery. By the last room, wheer he said something like "pull all the room, you can do it!" I was sooo angry that I ended up rage-pulling. Just pulled the whole room in a "oh you want that??? you get that!!! and if I die it's on you!!" berserk rage kind of way. Needless to say, I actually ended up loving it and since then I never tanked small again.
Sometimes you just need to push a bit over your limits to even know that you can push over your limits and be fine and get rid of those limits.

You know. Some of us dont actually LIKE tanking and just want to get all the classes to 90. Thats a thing. So if you don't like it, leave. Odds are at least one other person in the party is from my FC if not 2. Sometimes in a small FC we wont get 3 others online at the same time. So just let me level in peace and get it over with, I'm already considering a job skip but I can't afford it thanks.

Then don't do it? I also max all classes. The ones I really can't stand touching, i just level through pvp and tails. The ones I'm meh about, I either stick to something very easy, like cutscenes roulette, or have the decency to still learn well enough to carry my weght in content. And yeah, like others said Bozja and deep dungeons are also a thing, plus beast tribes now. You literally have no excuse. Hell, there are even fates.

[VelKallor]

Sometimes you just need to push a bit over your limits to even know that you can push over your limits and be fine and get rid of those limit

I tend to find that doing things against my own best instincts doesnt always end well. There is a fine line behind a calculated risk, and idiocy.