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  1. #211
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    Zhuyan's Avatar
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    Koro Dotharl
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    She shouldn't have to take the 30 over people that are too selfish to learn their task in a group activity.
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    Last edited by Zhuyan; 07-16-2022 at 12:07 PM.

  2. #212
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    ronibosch's Avatar
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    Kukuru Dei-ijla
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    Warrior Lv 90
    As a baby tank, I just pull 2-3 packs at a time usually, although I'm still in Stormblood content. When are W2Ws usually expected?
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  3. #213
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronibosch View Post
    As a baby tank, I just pull 2-3 packs at a time usually, although I'm still in Stormblood content. When are W2Ws usually expected?
    Wall to Wall pulls are doable as soon as you get into Castrum Merdinium in ARR. You'll notice dungeon design gets more streamlined to have a 2 or so mob packs in a room before you see a barrier. Since you're in Stormblood stuff, its perfectly fine for you to do big pulls at that point.
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  4. #214
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    Thaciscokidd's Avatar
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    Alfimi Einst
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    Just.... just be careful when you criticize people in-game about this(on the forums too I guess since in some cases it falls under the TOS). There are a handful of people out there trying to bait responses.
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  5. #215
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Wall to Wall pulls are doable as soon as you get into Castrum Merdinium in ARR. You'll notice dungeon design gets more streamlined to have a 2 or so mob packs in a room before you see a barrier. Since you're in Stormblood stuff, its perfectly fine for you to do big pulls at that point.
    Thanks!
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  6. #216
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I don't know I run a lot of content with my main and many alts and a single pulling tank is pretty rare in my experience.
    Pretty much been my experience, too. They're out there, but much rarer. And in my experience the time difference really is negligible unless the party has some other issues going on. With lower dps, it can actually end up faster because the tank and I can just concentrate on contributing to dps instead of wasting all our CDs on a big pull that's taking forever.
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  7. #217
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    Anienai's Avatar
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    Anienai Talenca
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronibosch View Post
    As a baby tank, I just pull 2-3 packs at a time usually, although I'm still in Stormblood content. When are W2Ws usually expected?
    Sastasha
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    The price of solving everything is everything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    Roe, no question. Why be a kitten when you can be a goddess?

  8. #218
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Maduin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anienai View Post
    Sastasha
    Fun fact: I took a group of first-timers running through Sastasha, didn't stop til everything was in the first boss room. With just my tank aoe and our DPS single-targetting, we got everything downed relatively quickly. After that pull I asked the healer if they were fine and they said they loved it XD Took that as my queue to keep going at that pace, and IIRC that dungeon run went super smoothly, only one hiccup at the end right before the last boss with that wide open area, one of the DPS pulled the two far groups of mobs by accident and ran around like a headless chicken before I could grab them, but TBH sastasha hits like a wet noodle so they survived with half their health intact when I managed to catch up to them.

    I personally think it's disrespectful to assume that sprout = can't handle anything, and to then run every dungeon like that. A sprout is learning, not stupid. If you coddle them, they're never gonna learn. It's like teaching a baby how to swim - while you're not tossing them into the deep blue ocean immediately, you're definitely not holding them so they can't even float. Treating sprouts like they're incompetent is basically like holding a baby up above the water so they'll never learn to swim on their own.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  9. #219
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    Kukuru Dei-ijla
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anienai View Post
    Sastasha
    I've been slacking this whole time?! I need to up my Unga Bunga game.
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  10. #220
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    Fun fact: I took a group of first-timers running through Sastasha, didn't stop til everything was in the first boss room. With just my tank aoe and our DPS single-targetting, we got everything downed relatively quickly. After that pull I asked the healer if they were fine and they said they loved it XD Took that as my queue to keep going at that pace, and IIRC that dungeon run went super smoothly, only one hiccup at the end right before the last boss with that wide open area, one of the DPS pulled the two far groups of mobs by accident and ran around like a headless chicken before I could grab them, but TBH sastasha hits like a wet noodle so they survived with half their health intact when I managed to catch up to them.

    I personally think it's disrespectful to assume that sprout = can't handle anything, and to then run every dungeon like that. A sprout is learning, not stupid. If you coddle them, they're never gonna learn. It's like teaching a baby how to swim - while you're not tossing them into the deep blue ocean immediately, you're definitely not holding them so they can't even float. Treating sprouts like they're incompetent is basically like holding a baby up above the water so they'll never learn to swim on their own.
    Thats true but that wasnt necessarily a "baby tank" doing those big pulls now was it? It certainly gave the fresh healer I assume a bit of an adrenaline rush so they only really had to worry about keeping a tank who knew the dungeon layoutn and what they were doing.
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