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    Quote Originally Posted by fulminating View Post
    I made the thread like you suggested - thanks for the advice there, there's been some interesting discussion.

    Why not let summoner retain its identity in this game and have evoker added with a more realised set of summons? In ff3 at least, evoker had multiple possible actions/summon with summoner being limited to one admittedly typically stronger cast. This would allow the evoker to pivot to a more supportive role if needed or focus on damage (Assuming they don't keep the random selection for an unknown reason).
    A discount poison mage with only 3 pets that have gone unchanged since ARR will never hold the title of Summoner again. What this class needs now is to follow through and commit to its namesake with more abilities and a fleshed out kit. I will gladly cede to you Shb SMN in the form of a Necromancer, but calling that a Summoner was one of the worst things to ever happen in this game.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Also calling people "lazy" and other disparaging names here while acknowledging the higher play rate means the rework was a success. People are playing the class. Pretending that they know what is going through other people's heads and claiming they play the class while hating every minute of it is absurd.
    I think an enormous issue is that after having put up with the bad controls and glitches of Shb SMN, many of us who do enjoy the rework are glad to be rid of an experience that felt more like fighting against a keyboard than fighting against a boss. However there are people who prided themselves on manouvering these things and would gladly tell everyone else to just get good instead of realizing that something was clearly broken here.

    I just want to not have to do weird things to play the job I like.

    That, and for goodness sake add the remaining pantheon. A level 20 FFXI Summoner has a level 90 FFXIV Summoner beat in every capacity, from choices of summon to number of abilities. Remedy this now.
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    Last edited by aveyond-dreams; 07-15-2022 at 12:56 AM.
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