Hildibrand for relic? Really?

[LisSquid]

Then we must have been playing two completely different games.

Nope. I remember booting up this game for the first time in late ARR to see my cat girl on a cart with a moogle getting a little too friendly with his bottle.

This game has narrative shortcomings for sure, but Hildibrand is as FFXIV as the entire sequence of Garlemald. If you're seeking thematic cohesiveness you chose the wrong game.

[aveyond-dreams]

Nope. I remember booting up this game for the first time in late ARR to see my cat girl on a cart with a moogle getting a little too friendly with his bottle.

This game has narrative shortcomings for sure, but Hildibrand is as FFXIV as the entire sequence of Garlemald. If you're seeking thematic cohesiveness you chose the wrong game.

Thank you for forgetting that the thing they show you before that scene is Lahabrea for the first time. The "funny" bits have usually been balanced out in previous expansions but Endwalker has completely derailed that. I completely disagree with your statement that Hildibrand is "as FFXIV" as the importance of Garlemald in this game's story.

Yay funny did not sell me this game. The cgi artwork of Gaius and the ARR Black mage did. And I wouldn't have stayed on if the story didn't actually try to do something with itself in ARR/Heavensward.

[LisSquid]

I completely disagree with your statement that Hildibrand is "as FFXIV" as the importance of Garlemald in this game's story.

Clearly not to the people who actually made the game, but I guess the irony in the silliness of your Xaela wearing a baseball cap and driving a car from another universe is a bit lost, too.

We will, thanks. Looking foreword to the new content and Relic Questline.
You Go enjoy a break away from FFXIV and do something enjoyable that doesnt involve complaining about nothing to do...when in reality the issue is there is nothing YOU want to do.

For real. I'm just going to be on my island and vibing (eventually..). Plenty of content doesn't appeal to everyone, so just don't do it! It's EZ.

[aveyond-dreams]

Clearly not to the people who actually made the game, but I guess the irony in the silliness of your Xaela wearing a baseball cap and driving a car from another universe is a bit lost, too.

Since when do modern clothes = comedy and Hildibrand style humor? Did you never play FFXV?

[LisSquid]

Did you never play FFXV?

Yeah! I hear there's a questline called Hildibrand in it.

[MikkoAkure]

The "funny" bits have usually been balanced out in previous expansions but Endwalker has completely derailed that.

What in Endwalker completely outbalances everything to the "funny" side? Yeah there's lopporits but there's also the entire Garlemald zone before that which is a long war story involving desperation and suicide. Sure there's 5 seconds of a cat boy eating a hamburger, but there's also 5 seconds of a boy being transformed into a monster and then being squished by a larger monster right in front of his dad. Y'shtola says one funny line, but we also get told about how one of the original great wyrms was lost to the Void and her brother has been dwelling on it for thousands of years.

[aveyond-dreams]

What in Endwalker completely outbalances everything to the "funny" side? Yeah there's lopporits but there's also the entire Garlemald zone before that which is a long war story involving desperation and suicide. Sure there's 5 seconds of a cat boy eating a hamburger, but there's also 5 seconds of a boy being transformed into a monster and then being squished by a larger monster right in front of his dad. Y'shtola says one funny line, but we also get told about how one of the original great wyrms was lost to the Void and her brother has been dwelling on it for thousands of years.

The burger scene, more tea swirling, long drawn out hours of the Loporrits, Estinien and the boot, the Y'shtola magical girl moment, you know the ones that have already been pointed out to you multiple times in the past. This was an expansion of the End of the World. The End of the World should've been more than 2 zones, sorry.

[SturmChurro]

The burger scene, more tea swirling, long drawn out hours of the Loporrits, Estinien and the boot, the Y'shtola magical girl moment, you know the ones that have already been pointed out to you multiple times in the past. This was an expansion of the End of the World. The End of the World should've been more than 2 zones, sorry.

I think the biggest issue was that this expansion was effectively two in one to get the storyline over and done with.

[MikkoAkure]

I think the biggest issue was that this expansion was effectively two in one to get the storyline over and done with.

I blame the Tempest and Shadowbringers as a whole.

I remember an interview before ShB where Yoshi-P joked about the players wondering if he revealed too much of the story all at once. Then in a more recent interview he said he realized he revealed too much of the story already and there was only 20% left and after the "player reception of Shadowbringers", whatever that means, he decided to end it in one expansion.

While a lot of Endwalker was definitely rushed and more than a few things had quick explanations that didn't make sense, a part of me is glad that we didn't get Stormblood 2.0. The potential 1 of 2 future expansions would have just been another Garlean war one that probably wouldn't have been different enough from Stormblood, Werlyt, and Bozja to justify concentrating on just that for a whole 2 years or whatever the launch cycle is now. The whole idea to pause the run up to the climax of the Garlean arc that Stormblood was leading to in order to have adventures on the First is as silly to me now as it was back then. While Shadowbringers was a really good expansion, having it in the middle of everything going on and then getting all that exposition at the end threw a wrench in the story pacing.

[SturmChurro]

I blame the Tempest and Shadowbringers as a whole.

I remember an interview before ShB where Yoshi-P joked about the players wondering if he revealed too much of the story all at once. Then in a more recent interview he said he realized he revealed too much of the story already and there was only 20% left and after the "player reception of Shadowbringers", whatever that means, he decided to end it in one expansion.

While a lot of Endwalker was definitely rushed and more than a few things had quick explanations that didn't make sense, a part of me is glad that we didn't get Stormblood 2.0. The potential 1 of 2 future expansions would have just been another Garlean war one that probably wouldn't have been different enough from Stormblood, Werlyt, and Bozja to justify concentrating on just that for a whole 2 years or whatever the launch cycle is now. The whole idea to pause the run up to the climax of the Garlean arc that Stormblood was leading to in order to have adventures on the First is as silly to me now as it was back then. While Shadowbringers was a really good expansion, having it in the middle of everything going on and then getting all that exposition at the end threw a wrench in the story pacing.

I have seen people talk about that as well, in regards to ShB. People do have mixed feelings on a Garlean expansion, but either way it no doubt would have led to a more satisfying ending to the Garlean Empire, and would have freed up the next expansion to be wholly devoted to the final days. ShB for sure destroyed the pacing of the main storyline, and did feel like a filler arc.