Melee classes are sad in CC

[Gserpent]

Have you played the class yes or no? We will not take your opinions seriously until you do.

If that's all you're going to do, then you're wasting your time and everyone else's.

Do you actually think Protoss players spend time playing Terran and Zerg at a professional level, that they need to do so in order to have an educated opinion on balance and design? At most they'll play a few practice games against teammates to get a general feel for how a build works and looks from the other side's perspective, but they certainly aren't going to learn it enough to compete at the professional level.

But Starcraft is a lot more complicated with a lot more moving parts than CC. CC is an incredibly simple game with not very much going on beyond trying to read the other team's intentions and plans, none of which has anything to do with class design. If you can't figure out how a class works and fits into a game by just reading it and playing with/against it... I dunno, man. Spend less time on forums and more time analyzing your games.

[Chiyeko]

Tbh if you only play on 1 server with 1 class people will try to stay in that meta on that datacenter, but idk lets say you have a same class access to crystal conflict and try to get crystal rank you will notices a different on each datacenter. Just cause rpr is strong in crystal doesn't mean its strong in other datacenter give or take on meta. Going to assume meta is bonker at this point in each datacenter with recent buff given to jobs in patch 6.18 atm.

[Gserpent]

I don't care about the meta, I care about the class's actual designs. And as designed, Reaper is very strong. It's very durable, has a flexible initiation tool that can be used to jump back to safety, good team value with Crest, and the best initiation/counter-initiation tool in the game with its LB.

Meta doesn't matter. You can pretty easily see a class's values and functions without looking at it in a meta environment.

[Ransu]

If that's all you're going to do, then you're wasting your time and everyone else's.

Do you actually think Protoss players spend time playing Terran and Zerg at a professional level, that they need to do so in order to have an educated opinion on balance and design?

They absolutely do...

Just like pro players in fighting games spend an insane amount of time in training mode looking at frame data and learning what can be crushed/throw punished/strike punished.

[Bloodthrone]

If that's all you're going to do, then you're wasting your time and everyone else's.

Do you actually think Protoss players spend time playing Terran and Zerg at a professional level, that they need to do so in order to have an educated opinion on balance and design? At most they'll play a few practice games against teammates to get a general feel for how a build works and looks from the other side's perspective, but they certainly aren't going to learn it enough to compete at the professional level.

But Starcraft is a lot more complicated with a lot more moving parts than CC. CC is an incredibly simple game with not very much going on beyond trying to read the other team's intentions and plans, none of which has anything to do with class design. If you can't figure out how a class works and fits into a game by just reading it and playing with/against it... I dunno, man. Spend less time on forums and more time analyzing your games.

Bro you are wasting our time when we are trying to talk about improving an obviously suffering class for those who actually play it and then a numbskull comes along who acts like he knows what he's talking about when most players and their grandmother are in concensus. So please tell me who's wasting who's time again?

[Bloodthrone]

They absolutely do...

Just like pro players in fighting games spend an insane amount of time in training mode looking at frame data and learning what can be crushed/throw punished/strike punished.

Not to mention people who play for example: The Soul's Series, who dump hour after hour into understanding and mastering weapons to analyze there strengths and weaknesses. So if a weapon is way undertuned (Ultra Greatswords in Elden Ring) they can be pointed out and be fixed for their's and other's benefit.

[MonteCristo]

I don't care about the meta, I care about the class's actual designs. And as designed, Reaper is very strong. It's very durable, has a flexible initiation tool that can be used to jump back to safety, good team value with Crest, and the best initiation/counter-initiation tool in the game with its LB.

Meta doesn't matter. You can pretty easily see a class's values and functions without looking at it in a meta environment.

For the absolute love of god G.....We play the job heavily and are playing based on REAL ranked match experience aka DAYS worth of blood sweat and many tears....Meanwhile u with zero experience come in here trying to tell us about how great reaper is based on reading tooltips and making "on paper" assessments/half assed analysis. Meanwhile u really expect us to believe your mantra of...."REeapeR iS reALly gooD on PaPeR u gUYs areNT plaYINg it CorreCTLY"????......normally id say pass the blunt but u can keep whatever oregano u puffin on homie....smfh

[Bloodthrone]

For the absolute love of god G.....We play the job heavily and are playing based on REAL ranked match experience aka DAYS worth of blood sweat and many tears....Meanwhile u with zero experience come in here trying to tell us about how great reaper is based on reading tooltips and making "on paper" assessments/half assed analysis. Meanwhile u really expect us to believe your mantra of...."REeapeR iS reALly gooD on PaPeR u gUYs areNT plaYINg it CorreCTLY"????......normally id say pass the blunt but u can keep whatever oregano u puffin on homie....smfh

LMFAO!!!!!

[Bloodthrone]

For the absolute love of god G.....We play the job heavily and are playing based on REAL ranked match experience aka DAYS worth of blood sweat and many tears....Meanwhile u with zero experience come in here trying to tell us about how great reaper is based on reading tooltips and making "on paper" assessments/half assed analysis. Meanwhile u really expect us to believe your mantra of...."REeapeR iS reALly gooD on PaPeR u gUYs areNT plaYINg it CorreCTLY"????......normally id say pass the blunt but u can keep whatever oregano u puffin on homie....smfh

What ever he's smokin it more than likely has paint chips in it, so good call!

[Cytus]

Nah, RPR is fine and powerful , said by SCH main with zero concept of SCH mechanics.
You don’t need to understand a job by playing it ! Pro forum players know how well the game is designed!
All the complaining are based on bad players! PvP is perfect nowwwwww! L2P.

LMAO.