Yoshi-P: Flippant dismissal of player criticism is a poor look for a lead developer.

[Sebazy]

It's not surprising, considering this an ongoing project for who knows how many years to come. It's not cheap to maintain all that and no good company wants to resort to having ads in their MMO. I remember a huge uproar about this during EQ or EQ2 with some company named Massive or something. People need to learn to understand and accept that there's only so much you can squeeze out of these games.

Keep in mind that in 2020, Everquest 1 took $11.5mil in revenue, EQ2 took $6.8mil. Meanwhile FFXIV & DQX combined pulled in roughly $140million.

I think that covers 100gb of extra enterprise storage no?

The question may not about "can we change this or not?". But "what will be the risk for doing it?".

That's a solid point and probably the answer that Yoshida should have gone with.

[Deveryn]

Keep in mind that in 2020, Everquest 1 took $11.5mil in revenue, EQ2 took $6.8mil. Meanwhile FFXIV & DQX combined pulled in roughly $140million.

I think that covers 100gb of extra enterprise storage no?



That's a solid point and probably the answer that Yoshida should have gone with.

It's never as simple as just adding storage though. There's maintenance and actual real estate. I'm sure the 140 and continued revenue helped with getting these new datacenters rolled out, but even with all that money, it just couldn't happen sooner. I think we also got some more staff.

Yoshida could make that point over and over and it still wouldn't register with a lot of people. I think he actually has made some points along these lines and people are still cyncial about it, like they're holding out on us.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Keep in mind that in 2020, Everquest 1 took $11.5mil in revenue, EQ2 took $6.8mil. Meanwhile FFXIV & DQX combined pulled in roughly $140million.

I think that covers 100gb of extra enterprise storage no?



That's a solid point and probably the answer that Yoshida should have gone with.

I don't think they are talking about storage. Its more likely a memory issue. And that is NOT cheap lol.

Plus, it could also be an engine limitation with memory. We don't know. But "running out of data space" doesn't mean hard drives necessarily. To me that means they don't have the ability to load all of that into memory for every character. But thats just me.

[Grebeny]

I agree, Yoshi P should start destroying FF 14 entirely by listening to all feedback.
- Destroying the identity of all jobs to fix two 2% gap between efficency of different jobs. Ah already did that.
- Making most jobs brain dead so people would play them, because lets be fair, there is a reason Summoner was the less liked job and Red Mage was the most loved in ShB. Ah, already did that.
- Making modern days, bikini and so on to make FF look like free to play korean mmo. Ah already did that.
Now the community wants the WoW glam system to make it look even more like free to play game, why not. Lets just remove entirely the crafting leatherwork, blacksmith and tailing jobs from the game.

[Misplaced_Marbles]

I agree, Yoshi P should start destroying FF 14 entirely by listening to all feedback.

Indeed. After all, the only two options are ignoring all feedback or listening and implementing all feedback...

Then we could also talk about Yoshida doing a banger job of directing the game to destruction on his own, but let's not.

[Stasya]

I agree, Yoshi P should start destroying FF 14 entirely by listening to all feedback.

You are wrong here, no one said a thing that SAM needs to get auto crit to smooth average rdps and no one said that kaiten provides "button bloat" and needs to be removed.

[Striker44]

I agree, Yoshi P should start destroying FF 14 entirely by listening to all feedback.
- Destroying the identity of all jobs to fix two 2% gap between efficency of different jobs. Ah already did that.
- Making most jobs brain dead so people would play them, because lets be fair, there is a reason Summoner was the less liked job and Red Mage was the most loved in ShB. Ah, already did that.
- Making modern days, bikini and so on to make FF look like free to play korean mmo. Ah already did that.
Now the community wants the WoW glam system to make it look even more like free to play game, why not. Lets just remove entirely the crafting leatherwork, blacksmith and tailing jobs from the game.

Ahh, opinions are like...I hope you know the saying

See, here's the thing, those are all opinions you're trying to masquerade as "facts." I can have opinions, too. And mine are the polar opposite. I love the balance between the jobs, and there are certain ones I still prefer over others because there are still differences in the details, nor are they "brain dead" by any stretch of a reasonable imagination.

The upside is I do have actual facts to support my opinions. Namely the steadily increasing average playerbase with each passing expansion, which includes EW as the top so far. Want to destroy something? Listen to the rabid vocal minority and fix what isn't broken. The playerbase far and away loves EW and its design. Keep going with it and ignore the trolls.

[Raoabolic]

Ahh, opinions are like...I hope you know the saying

See, here's the thing, those are all opinions you're trying to masquerade as "facts." I can have opinions, too. And mine are the polar opposite. I love the balance between the jobs, and there are certain ones I still prefer over others because there are still differences in the details, nor are they "brain dead" by any stretch of a reasonable imagination.

The upside is I do have actual facts to support my opinions. Namely the steadily increasing average playerbase with each passing expansion, which includes EW as the top so far. Want to destroy something? Listen to the rabid vocal minority and fix what isn't broken. The playerbase far and away loves EW and its design. Keep going with it and ignore the trolls.

I enjoy shlock as much as the next guy but let's not pretend it's high brow entertainment. Same situation. Also, equating that sales are a sign of a good product is a terrible argument for obvious reasons, lol.

[Vahlnir]

I enjoy shlock as much as the next guy but let's not pretend it's high brow entertainment. Same situation. Also, equating that sales are a sign of a good product is a terrible argument for obvious reasons, lol.

Yeah...Blizzard and WoW broke records with their WoD, BfA and Shadowlands expansions. It ended up ruining their reputation more each time, which broke some other records that they are probably not too proud of. lol So yeah, sales do not always indicate how good (or bad) a game is.

[Deceptus]

Yeah...Blizzard and WoW broke records with their WoD, BfA and Shadowlands expansions. It ended up ruining their reputation more each time, which broke some other records that they are probably not too proud of. lol So yeah, sales do not always indicate how good (or bad) a game is.

Yep, broke records with expansion release sales and then broke records again with plunges in players subscribed shortly after.