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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wombatmetal View Post
    I doubt they are working in good faith. I think they are deciding what is best and not taking player's views into consideration, and you see this at different levels in SE. From shutting the servers on the Fourth to doubling down on blockchain when the players really don't want that. It's a theme in SE
    They kept to their normal schedule...America is not the center ofcthe world. And NFTs have not even been in xiv or most/any or there games far as ik. Not sure that point holds here
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    Stay tuned next year, when folks are elated by the weekly reset falling on the 4th of July. ...then 4 years of silence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Keep in mind that in 2020, Everquest 1 took $11.5mil in revenue, EQ2 took $6.8mil. Meanwhile FFXIV & DQX combined pulled in roughly $140million.

    I think that covers 100gb of extra enterprise storage no?



    That's a solid point and probably the answer that Yoshida should have gone with.
    I don't think they are talking about storage. Its more likely a memory issue. And that is NOT cheap lol.

    Plus, it could also be an engine limitation with memory. We don't know. But "running out of data space" doesn't mean hard drives necessarily. To me that means they don't have the ability to load all of that into memory for every character. But thats just me.
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  4. #204
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    You are absolutely going to fill all those slots and you will require more.
    Mainoholic me when I only get glam for my RDM main AND I'm also very picky so I'm still around 190 after 3 years of playing:

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  5. #205
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    All jobs and I immediately get to taking a closer look when I cross 300. I'll keep doing that after the change.
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  6. #206
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dikatis View Post
    I'm fairly certain it was said that a glamour log is currently impossible within FFXIV's infrastructure because of the amount of data it would require per character.

    He's not averse to the idea, but the amount of resources it would take to work on top of the content they're already trying to put out would not be feasible given budget and time constraints.

    It's not that "they're ignoring what players want" it's, "We quite literally can't given the pressure we're under and our server capacity."

    I imagine they didn't have the workforce knowledge to accomplish the task, and I don't mean that as an insult.. just that you can obviously see functioning examples of systems that are akin to this from companies much smaller than FFXIV. Yet most of those companies are backed by people who massive storage and network knowledge, and perhaps FFXIV's team didn't have enough experience with that type of stuff.

    You have it with the mog station account bound as well.

    I feel it's likely they made do with what they had at the time (when making the core guts, I imagine their experience is increased a lot). Perhaps now if they started again they might be able to with the knowledge they've hopefully fostered but not lost (that'd be unfortunate). LONG ago they mentioned they programmed more statically as it was a concern to use memory really efficiently, like to me it sounded like when you're first learning C/++ and you get "we used static arrays instead of strings/dynamic mem".

    I strongly hope they can fix this issue in FFXIV, or alternatively are working on their next MMO (not to be released now, just working on it so that it doesn't get rush released and comes out unbaked).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 07-06-2022 at 10:45 PM.

  7. #207
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    So here we have a tradition where the top designers of the game sit down to have a fun, organic, and holistic talk with the community before each major patch ... and you're making a case for it should be another pointless, soulless, scripted by lawyers event? The kind companies like EA or Activision do?

    Hell, I thought people hate PR/Corporate talk, or is that just me? Between this and the way the community jumped at him for his opinion on NFT, people just want to nitpick what they don't want to hear. Well, if your goal is to eventually make the communication between the dev and players strictly become a list of bulletin point written in standard PR language with a triple checker from corporate lawyers, I say keep going because the community is doing a fantastic job of making that happens.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    The live letter itself is very much an informal event. It always has been. I'm sure they're very serious and all business the rest of the time. The LL is a time to relax and loosen up. Yoshida-san is a fellow player talking to other players about what's coming up next. A little joke here and there doesn't seem out of bounds, considering the comments that likely show up in that ongoing flood.

    They don't have to do all this. They could just have a letter and a slideshow and a very inhuman feel to the whole thing. Is that what you'd like to see? Maybe he should stop chatting with content makers when an expansion is coming up. I imagine the commentary on the forums would be even worse.

    No, don't misunderstand, I do not really mind what Yoshida is saying. I was just replying to the Floortank (before anything, its their actual gamer name) that this is how companies work. And regardless if you "feel" that this is just a "freeform" event or not, it is by an employee, under the logo of the company... so it is going to be considered as official PR to the company.
    When you join a company even if you are a little nobody, you will need to sign an agreement that you will not belittle the company publicly. You may feel that because it is "gaming" it works different but I can 100% assure you that leadership wants to gain sales and profit and anything that will be in the way of this will be harshly treated.

    So again, I have nothing against Yoshi P, I am just saying what the guy was saying was very unrealistic in 2022 with the internet and social media.
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  8. #208
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    I'd still rather have more glamour plates. 20 is a nice improvement over the 15 we had before, but still not even close to being enough. They obviously realize this, and they seem to be making upgrades where they can with the resources they have because they genuinely seem to care about what players want...and that's worth supporting given how every other major gaming company has been treating their customers the last several years.
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    I agree, Yoshi P should start destroying FF 14 entirely by listening to all feedback.
    - Destroying the identity of all jobs to fix two 2% gap between efficency of different jobs. Ah already did that.
    - Making most jobs brain dead so people would play them, because lets be fair, there is a reason Summoner was the less liked job and Red Mage was the most loved in ShB. Ah, already did that.
    - Making modern days, bikini and so on to make FF look like free to play korean mmo. Ah already did that.
    Now the community wants the WoW glam system to make it look even more like free to play game, why not. Lets just remove entirely the crafting leatherwork, blacksmith and tailing jobs from the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuuli View Post
    So again, I have nothing against Yoshi P, I am just saying what the guy was saying was very unrealistic in 2022 with the internet and social media.

    Screw the 2022 internet and social media standard then. It's like saying they're the source of our ill but we have to obligate to it. Just like if someone like the OP wants to make a silly complain, doesn't mean the complain is valid.
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    Last edited by Raven2014; 07-14-2022 at 12:03 AM.

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