SGE was designed to be the "dpsing healer" but sadly failed at it.

[Desna]

So dev team answer for people asking for more dps option was SGE with its Kardia mechanic, providing a heal each time you execute a dps spell.


SGE doesn't have more damaging option than the others.

Really it doesn't heal well using it's DMG based set either. You put Kardia on the tank and Dosis your brains out and the Tank is gonna die because the heal produced is...really really weak. The other options cost so much MP and time and placement in places where healers shouldn't be that the whole idea of doing damage to heal really...is a lolipop instead of a meal. The concept has some merit, World of Warcraft attempted it when Mists of Pandaria dropped with the Monk class, they had a melee based set of heals buy, it was decided it was overpowered when it worked well enough to keep people alive and the class went through huge changes until it ended up playing out more like...a druid that smacks things. Sage has real potential, and having played in WoW during Mists and run a Monk and watched where that went wrong? I can see why SE is stepping gingerly. Too much healing through damage and the class becomes OP in its role, but I do think right now it's not delivering. Dosis should generate a larger heal if it's supposed to be tank maintenance, goodness knows tanks will overpull and run out of CDs and you'll still be hitting your other skills plenty so it wouldn't dwarf the rest of the toolkit if that produced say 10% more throughput (just in the heal, absolutely don't make it hit harder because a healer should never get close to being a dps that heals) on the whole, make it the classes bread and butter and players could enjoy that feel of being an offensive healer a little more.

[Nethereal]

Really it doesn't heal well using it's DMG based set either. You put Kardia on the tank and Dosis your brains out and the Tank is gonna die because the heal produced is...really really weak. The other options cost so much MP and time and placement in places where healers shouldn't be that the whole idea of doing damage to heal really...is a lolipop instead of a meal. The concept has some merit, World of Warcraft attempted it when Mists of Pandaria dropped with the Monk class, they had a melee based set of heals buy, it was decided it was overpowered when it worked well enough to keep people alive and the class went through huge changes until it ended up playing out more like...a druid that smacks things. Sage has real potential, and having played in WoW during Mists and run a Monk and watched where that went wrong? I can see why SE is stepping gingerly. Too much healing through damage and the class becomes OP in its role, but I do think right now it's not delivering. Dosis should generate a larger heal if it's supposed to be tank maintenance, goodness knows tanks will overpull and run out of CDs and you'll still be hitting your other skills plenty so it wouldn't dwarf the rest of the toolkit if that produced say 10% more throughput (just in the heal, absolutely don't make it hit harder because a healer should never get close to being a dps that heals) on the whole, make it the classes bread and butter and players could enjoy that feel of being an offensive healer a little more.

If kardia isn't noticeable you're not doing relevant content. This is especially true for Eos.

I get your point though.

[Supersnow845]

If kardia isn't noticeable you're not doing relevant content. This is especially true for Eos.

I get your point though.

I mean SGE is drowning in so many free heals that you honestly could do basically any content with no kardia, like honestly total kardia contribution could probably be equaled by the potency of druachole for all the addersgall you don’t need to use in an average fight

Kardia is inherently a good mechanic but SGE needs to rely on it more, not just a set and forget that basically never ends up actually being that relevant except in very high tank damage phases

[Absurdity]

I mean SGE is drowning in so many free heals that you honestly could do basically any content with no kardia, like honestly total kardia contribution could probably be equaled by the potency of druachole for all the addersgall you don’t need to use in an average fight

It was actually quite noticeable in P4S phase 2.

[Liam_Harper]

I mean SGE is drowning in so many free heals that you honestly could do basically any content with no kardia

It's not even the free heals, it's the fact that bosses hit tanks like wet noodles. Sometimes I forget Kardia in Savage, realize halfway through the fight when the tank is dipping a bit low, switch it on and pop Soteria and still don't need to go near any single target heals.

Kardia itself is extremely strong. It can easily reach up to about half a million tank healing on either part 1 or 2 of P4S for me. That's about 37 Druochole or just over 11 minutes worth of Addersgall generation. The reason it's not relevant is tanks just don't take real damage. I barely even need Haima this tier. Boss autos tickle.

[Deceptus]

It's not even the free heals, it's the fact that bosses hit tanks like wet noodles. Sometimes I forget Kardia in Savage, realize halfway through the fight when the tank is dipping a bit low, switch it on and pop Soteria and still don't need to go near any single target heals.

Kardia itself is extremely strong. It can easily reach up to about half a million tank healing on either part 1 or 2 of P4S for me. That's about 37 Druochole or just over 11 minutes worth of Addersgall generation. The reason it's not relevant is tanks just don't take real damage. I barely even need Haima this tier. Boss autos tickle.

I constantly run into mana issues on SGE because I forget to fire off useless Druocholes so as not to cap Addersgall and get back that MP.