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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    The comeback mechanic with the crystal moving faster should not be a thing.

    This game mode snowballs like crazy because of idiotic designs like the crystal moving at lightning speed when a team starts pushing it the other direction. It should move the same speed throughout the entire match. Watching the crystal move at breakneck speed from one side of the map entirely to the other before anyone can even respawn is ridiculous
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    Last edited by Ransu; 07-02-2022 at 06:43 PM.

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    Brys Beddict
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    Midgardsormr
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    Agreed. Also, overtime needs a time limit.
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    Sarevok Thordin
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    It isn't made any better by the dripfeeding that can go on. You have to either choose to dive into the enemy and hope none of them can break your guard knowing you'll be killed instantly after those seconds are up or wait for the rest of your team.
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    Maduin
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Crystal movement speed should probably be tied to how many people are pushing it. In other words, apply the mechanics for checkpoints to the entire map. Say 2 people to move the crystal at the current (standard) pace, with each additional person adding an extra 5% speed. Right now, there is literally no reason to ever have more than one person touching the crystal at a time unless you're worried about the other team trying to steal it from you. Nor do you ever want more than 1 person holding the crystal in place outside of OT. Making crystal movement more granular would open up additional tactical options, which is something CC is going to need sooner rather than later.
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    Hidden Street
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Gserpent View Post
    Crystal movement speed should probably be tied to how many people are pushing it.
    Yes please to this and eliminating the comeback speed. Losing stability after keeping it in the opponents court shouldn't punish you for the OT phase.. especially when said turnaround is helped by the respawn distance.
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    Ofelia Tilmitt
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    Dancer Lv 70
    More people pushing it = faster would be a big buff to certain classes, whm and warrior being two of them. Idk about you but those are two classes that I don't think need a buff.

    The crystal speed up mechanic isn't a catch up mechanic, it's a tiebreaker. If you didn't push the crystal to goal in the time limit, you don't deserve the win yet. If you have the better team, you won't let them push you all the way back from 98%. I'll agree that it doesn't feel great when that does happen, but I definitely see the necessity of it.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenwatch View Post
    Yes please to this and eliminating the comeback speed. Losing stability after keeping it in the opponents court shouldn't punish you for the OT phase.. especially when said turnaround is helped by the respawn distance.
    Ya the comeback mechanic is pretty deflating honestly and just leads to way too many snowballing situations. Personally I'd like to see CC become a best of 3 match instead of a single round and the format to be attack/defend rounds instead of the neutral center piece that it is now.
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    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kettlestick View Post
    More people pushing it = faster would be a big buff to certain classes, whm and warrior being two of them. Idk about you but those are two classes that I don't think need a buff.

    The crystal speed up mechanic isn't a catch up mechanic, it's a tiebreaker. If you didn't push the crystal to goal in the time limit, you don't deserve the win yet. If you have the better team, you won't let them push you all the way back from 98%. I'll agree that it doesn't feel great when that does happen, but I definitely see the necessity of it.
    In what way is it a buff to WHM and WAR?
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    Ofelia Tilmitt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gserpent View Post
    In what way is it a buff to WHM and WAR?
    It'll buff any class that benefits from everyone being clumped up, or is good at brawling. Warrior is good at brawling, whm's limit crushes teams that stand near each other.
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    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kettlestick View Post
    It'll buff any class that benefits from everyone being clumped up, or is good at brawling. Warrior is good at brawling, whm's limit crushes teams that stand near each other.
    So... don't stack up when they have their big buttons available. Isn't this CC 101 stuff?

    If WHM has LB, everyone spreads out. When WHM doesn't have LB, it's safe to stack. Same with Primal Rend, RPR LB, and so many other things.
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