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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Again, how much ofcthe msq is light hearted and how much of it is serious? When is enough enough? I think we're all wondering the same thing about you guys. What Scion in the history of the game has gotten scratches from anything? You act like we just beat everything with no qualms whatsoever which is far from true. I've already explained earlier that the scions already have solid foundations as people by this point. Things like despair ain't going to phase them personally same for Zenos though for different reasons.

    Also this is SIDE CONTENT. Skip it if you don't like it. It's not an issue. The writers are allowing the Scions to live like actual people, not Uber edgelords that have little to n fun or enjoyment outside of conflict in their lives
    What scion has gotten scratches? Let’s see….

    Thancred lost his ability to manipulate Aether.
    Yshtola lost her sight and at least before it was retconned was proclaimed to be slowly sapping away her life energies

    Papalymo sacrifices himself

    Most of the scions in the waking sands were massacred or given life threatening injuries

    I didn’t even mention anything about despair affecting them. Sure we can handwave that, but they’ve been injured and or died to far weaker foes than the likes of Endsinger, or unsundered ancients. Yet it’s against these foes that they lost nothing. Instead we get constant slice of life scenes and the budget goes towards said scenes, with Yoshi P himself stating the most expensive thing to animate this expansion was Estinien’s foot on a balcony. Imagine if instead of all these slice of life scenes, we could have gotten a cinematic of Hydaelyn vs Zodiark, something actually rich in lore and the foundation of the games life rather than burger eating, date scenes, or yshtola acting like a 5 yr old magical girl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    What scion has gotten scratches? Let’s see….

    Thancred lost his ability to manipulate Aether.
    Yshtola lost her sight and at least before it was retconned was proclaimed to be slowly sapping away her life energies

    Papalymo sacrifices himself

    Most of the scions in the waking sands were massacred or given life threatening injuries

    I didn’t even mention anything about despair affecting them. Sure we can handwave that, but they’ve been injured and or died to far weaker foes than the likes of Endsinger, or unsundered ancients. Yet it’s against these foes that they lost nothing. Instead we get constant slice of life scenes and the budget goes towards said scenes, with Yoshi P himself stating the most expensive thing to animate this expansion was Estinien’s foot on a balcony. Imagine if instead of all these slice of life scenes, we could have gotten a cinematic of Hydaelyn vs Zodiark, something actually rich in lore and the foundation of the games life rather than burger eating, date scenes, or yshtola acting like a 5 yr old magical girl.
    Last I checked Ysh's eyesight was never retconned. It's was said her life was draining that doesn't mean she'd die soon. And Thancred can't manipulate aether which happened in ARR, and hasn't had anything happened to him since until ShB with his near death fight with Ranjit (folks call that a cop out ofc) and then nothing til EW. Papy is indeed gone, the only main one outside of maybe Meon to do so, and even that wasn't until SB for him.

    Yes the scions have been injured by weaker foes than the endsinger but they have gotten stronger same as us. And unless you missed it we got them out of there to avoid them getting hurt further. They weren't around for Zodis fight so we have no guage there. Also again with these "we get constant slice of life scenes". How often do we REALLY get those in the story? I've asked you to find this out like 3 times now. As for your lore right cutscene? We already got that in the Venat sundering. That's one of if not the best cutscene in the entire game and I'm FAR from the only person who thinks this. Same for the other scenes in the game. Battling n new animations all over the place in EW unlike anything we've seen so far from the game, yet folks are upset about burgers...oh and Ysh's magic girl bit is indeed character development something your crowd has complained about Scions not having but I guess thats bad now too?

    And frankly wtf does any of this have to do with Hildy weps? Take the EW distain to that 6k post thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Last I checked Ysh's eyesight was never retconned. It's was said her life was draining that doesn't mean she'd die soon. And Thancred can't manipulate aether which happened in ARR, and hasn't had anything happened to him since until ShB with his near death fight with Ranjit (folks call that a cop out ofc) and then nothing til EW. Papy is indeed gone, the only main one outside of maybe Meon to do so, and even that wasn't until SB for him.

    Yes the scions have been injured by weaker foes than the endsinger but they have gotten stronger same as us. And unless you missed it we got them out of there to avoid them getting hurt further. They weren't around for Zodis fight so we have no guage there. Also again with these "we get constant slice of life scenes". How often do we REALLY get those in the story? I've asked you to find this out like 3 times now. As for your lore right cutscene? We already got that in the Venat sundering. That's one of if not the best cutscene in the entire game and I'm FAR from the only person who thinks this. Same for the other scenes in the game. Battling n new animations all over the place in EW unlike anything we've seen so far from the game, yet folks are upset about burgers...oh and Ysh's magic girl bit is indeed character development something your crowd has complained about Scions not having but I guess thats bad now too?

    And frankly wtf does any of this have to do with Hildy weps? Take the EW distain to that 6k post thread
    Yshtola's life draining has never been mentioned since, not even a remark upon her have significant more draining in ShB due to being away from her body etc. As for your Venat's cutscene comment.....Its one of the worst lore ones. It portrays events inaccurately and out of order and is all via her biased perspective. As for how this is relevant, one of the reasons this was brought up was due to the seriousness of the story and hildibrand being more slice of life comedy which was prevalent in EW.

    As for the slice of life scenes, what do you want me to go and count each and every one? you do that if it bothers you so much. Again, the most expensive animation this expansion was a slice of life fluff scene. Talk about mismanagement of resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Yshtola's life draining has never been mentioned since, not even a remark upon her have significant more draining in ShB due to being away from her body etc. As for your Venat's cutscene comment.....Its one of the worst lore ones. It portrays events inaccurately and out of order and is all via her biased perspective. As for how this is relevant, one of the reasons this was brought up was due to the seriousness of the story and hildibrand being more slice of life comedy which was prevalent in EW.

    As for the slice of life scenes, what do you want me to go and count each and every one? you do that if it bothers you so much. Again, the most expensive animation this expansion was a slice of life fluff scene. Talk about mismanagement of resources.
    Was all biased towards her view? Wtf was biased about us being in her place walking towards Hades? What was biased about the fact she KNOWS conflict will come from those who will come after her? Where was it confirmed that her pleading to her people and them refusing is just her bias? Hate Venat all you want but keep your injection out of that. And last I checked something not being mentioned isn't a retcon...and yes Slice of life was prevalent yet wasn't the majority. Folks just laser focus on that aspect same as you. Also the story and all the seriousness is done for now. Is this not the best time to get into full on jokey stuff? And again...no one even knows if the quest line will be all jokes. Yall are once again assuming it is and adding more to the cesspool that is these forums. The Omega quest line isn't jokey, nor is the Pandemonium one or the alliance one we have. Yet let one other piece be POTENTIALLY fun n jokes and yall throw fits.
    It's ridiculous at this point
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