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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    They are calling it savage. That certainly sets the expectations for savage raiders don't you think. Maybe wait to see more. The next live letter will have more details. Perhaps they should have stopped when they announced it as casual content as first then went on to say more.
    And this is the warning players receive in Eureka Hydatos when they are ready to unlock BA. "Warning: The Baldesian Arsenal is an unimaginably punishing duty. Even the entry conditions will not be easily fulfilled, and emerging triumphant will require teamwork, tenacity, time, knowledge, courage, strength, and, not least of all, luck. Have you read and understood the warning?"

    "Unimaginably punishing"? Sign me up. I expected some crazy stuff, not a simple dungeon with mob pulls easier than vanilla Wailing Caverns and with a few one-shots that are mechanically simple. And yea, I did it on release.

    Delubrum Reginae (Savage) is called "savage" but anyone who has done it will tell you the bosses are far far closer to extreme difficulty if not easier. The only savage part about it is herding 47 ̶c̶a̶t̶s̶ players through a dungeon. Also did this during ShB close to release.

    I can call something whatever I want. The actual difficulty and complexity of mechanics is what is meaningful, not a title. I'll be impressed when they show something impressive. Not some PowerPoint slides.
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    I have been waning from the game, between IRL getting more difficult and raid burnout, with only the completely unexpected hit of the PvP rework getting me to resub at all.

    But progression-difficulty dungeons? TAKE MY MONEY YOSHIP!!!

    e: I really cannot state how excited I am for this. More so than any game announcement I can recall. Not even the countdown to Elden Ring. This is a huge sea-change in the developers' stance on light party content and stands a much better chance of retaining ex-WoW players like me who've been starving for a M+ analog.
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    YES!

    I was quite pleasantly surprised by this, I was expecting the dungeons to be tied to the relics.
    Savage dungeons sounds incredible and like a dream come true.

    Knowing the devs I am sure they'll build on it in the future too so I think this is something that will have a bright future ahead of it if it works out.
    More difficult dungeon content is something this game has sorely needed since forever I am super excited about this, easily the highlight of the live letter to me.

    I am super excited about this 6.2 sounds incredible.
    I actually like that they delayed the Savage tier with a week too, that means I don't have to rush the normal mode and can spend more time getting ready.
    I want to prog it from day 1 this time.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaze View Post
    And this is the warning players receive in Eureka Hydatos when they are ready to unlock BA. "Warning: The Baldesian Arsenal is an unimaginably punishing duty. Even the entry conditions will not be easily fulfilled, and emerging triumphant will require teamwork, tenacity, time, knowledge, courage, strength, and, not least of all, luck. Have you read and understood the warning?"

    "Unimaginably punishing"? Sign me up. I expected some crazy stuff, not a simple dungeon with mob pulls easier than vanilla Wailing Caverns and with a few one-shots that are mechanically simple. And yea, I did it on release.

    Delubrum Reginae (Savage) is called "savage" but anyone who has done it will tell you the bosses are far far closer to extreme difficulty if not easier. The only savage part about it is herding 47 ̶c̶a̶t̶s̶ players through a dungeon. Also did this during ShB close to release.

    I can call something whatever I want. The actual difficulty and complexity of mechanics is what is meaningful, not a title. I'll be impressed when they show something impressive. Not some PowerPoint slides.
    I've done both BA and DRS. They are fun I agree I don't think they measure up to real savage content but hard to say what these will be like until they release it.
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    Honestly, I'm impressed. This live letter restored a lot of my confidence. The only thing they could've added for me would've been increased housing/apartment furniture caps, but even without that, it was incredible. Kudos to square, as someone who's regularly critical but knows when to give credit where it's due.
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    Yup. This is the kind of garbage that gets pumped out when they steal the money away from the game. Enjoy having nothing to do for the rest of the year. /sarcasm/
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Yay, Mythic+ in FFXIV.....
    Ah well, Im just happy for more content, I almost dont care what it is, so long as I have more to do
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Savage dungeons. Oh you mean WAR+WHM+SAM+BLM dungeons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    New dungeon.
    New trial.
    New variant dungeon.
    New criterion dungeon.
    New criterion dungeon (savage).
    New raids.
    New savage raids.
    And a lot of other things such as popular quests and a beast tribe.
    New relics.

    But I have no doubt people on these forums will find a way to say there is less content.
    Savage raids aren’t new we always get those. We always get beast tribes. The only new thing here is criterion dungeons, and even then, look at stormblood where they gave us 4 relic zones, a deep dungeon, hard mode dungeons, and much more without having to cut things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    This is what's actually new. You're welcome.
    No, the variant dungeons are also new. It's 3 new difficulty levels. It would have been simpler for them to be named Normal, Extreme and Savage.

    Just because we normally get all of the other content I listed, doesn't meant that the content is not new. It is a new dungeon, it is a new set of savage raids and it is a new extreme trial.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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