I got a warning and the lack of communication is unacceptable.

[Xuled]

Sucks to hear OP but I’m not surprised. Go back through these forums and you’ll see countless examples of this happening. Playerbase way too soft and reports immediately for the smallest infractions. You don’t have many options. You can either not talk in-game, turn the ToS on this “grey(t)” community and report them back for small things, or just post about them on other sites (ie: host your own, discord, etc) just be sure to unlink your characters name. Cheers.

PS - always post on alts everywhere for the above reasonings. You can’t trust anyone in this recycling bin of a community.

[Raoabolic]

Everyone cried about "barrens chat" so we get the complete opposite! What is with this new hot take where one extreme must be met with another extreme while destroying everything in the middle?

[Hoodcat]

I demand a police state where we can only communicate throu a 3rd party advocate, and the advocate has to be a bunny.

You have to remember Rao, this is the game where you are not allowed to say the real reason why a savage/ex/ult fails you have to all back out and remove the "issue" w/o telling them or you get in trouble =p Totally socially acceptable, rather than the truth hah

[worldofneil]

And OP needs to realise , as you pointed out a CS/GM team will never let you discuss the matter , especially if the players are in the EU where you are under strict GDPR rules to never expose peoples identity/persona to further harassment by talking about these matters because the punishment to SQE would be severe. A citizen could land themselves a few hundred Euro fine , depending on the severity , a cooperation could land themselves with a small percentage of annual earnings sort of punishment .

Sorry, but you've got that round the wrong way. If anyone in this situation is located within Europe they CAN make a request under GDPR and Square Enix will send the chat logs.

However they are one sided and will only show what you wrote, not what anyone else wrote. Possibly from that it can be worked out who they were speaking to, but SE aren't showing you that information so they're still compliant and haven't released any data on other players.

But it will have told them what they did wrong which I believe was the main concern here.

Sadly if you're outside of Europe/no GDPR, then SE don't have to do anything else.

[SieyaM]

While it does feel unfair to not know exactly what it was they are warning you for, if they really are going to protect the identity of people who report then they can't. It would make it pretty easy to identify who reported since you would remember who you had said that to. The exception would probably be in instances where people are violating the code of conduct in public places using say or shout, since anyone in the area at the time could have reported it so there would be no way to know which person it was.

[NekoMataMata]

This doesn't even make sense, how is it easy to give out a warning for something minor because no context is necessary?
Why would they need context then if they don't care about that if someone is threatening to '' hunt down and attempt to murder someone ''?
What context could possibly justify that?

Like in one second you say that they're not doing anything, then in the next second you're saying that they're doing too much too easily.
Do you actually think that GM's just sit around banning or warning people for like calling someone a poop face but then just look the other way when someone is threatening violence?
They may not have been banned but they may have been warned and it may have been their first time.
I think it's fair to receive a warning first before a ban even if it's quite bad ( unless it's especially bad and actually escalates into irl stuff for real ).
Obviously it's not okay but I think people deserve a second chance, there's too much bullshit already online with people being '' cancelled '' or whatever for things they did or said 10 years ago.
If you do something wrong you should be given a chance to better yourself unless it's especially horrible and dangerous and a more legit threat.

It's funny how you do your best to hunt down my posts and try to destroy their reasonings instead of looking towards any logic.

Taking action against something major such as someone threatening irl violence would likely mean that they also need to report it to the authorities irl using the information that they have on the person making the threats in case something does happen. Otherwise they could be held responsible. Even if they do report it, it's still a bad look for them so why bother at all?

Besides that, I know that moderation staff on other games have quotas to fill. It would make sense if it's the same over here for GMs to want to hand out penalties for easier to deal with situations while leaving questionable situations alone.

Also I feel you're a bit off and you're defending yourself by believing that everyone deserves a second chance regardless of what they've done. There are always some actions that are unforgiveable. There are gray areas but there are also areas that are completely black and white and failing to take strong actions against something that falls in a black and white area showcases your true character.

[dapperfaffer]

Everyone cried about "barrens chat" so we get the complete opposite! What is with this new hot take where one extreme must be met with another extreme while destroying everything in the middle?

To prepare us for the trolling of the JP servers next week.

[Misplaced_Marbles]

Yeah i know, having fun and jesting and being friendly with people in a video game is bad

Yeah, getting your kicks at the expense of others is real fun and friendly.

Well, i'm 100% certain it is fun for you and your buddies, your buddies who are your safety blanket if the butt of your jokes feels like giving as good as they got. Then you can gang up on them and kick them for not bending over and taking it like a team player. Sheesh...

[Kes13a]

while I would like to think this is genuine, too many times on these forums, someone comes in and relates their side and professes innocence only to have the full story come out later and find there was no error. yes, lack of communication telling you EXACTLY what you did seems to be a common thing

but then, so is buffing up one side of the story to show how wronged you were.

I think I'll wait on the full story for this one.

[keichirou]

So I log in after renewing my sub and retainers to see this strange flashing notice at the top of my screen to find out its a note I have to open from the main menu. What I see is a very generic copy-paste notice that I have been emailed and I apparently harassed someone on 6-28-22 (today) even though the last time I played was the evening before. Further down it further described that I said a bad word.

Now, I have been playing this game since ARR came out, and I have never been notified that anything I have ever said or done was harassment (I don't pick on people, I try to help, but yes, sometimes I make sarcastic comments and if some random person somehow finds offense I apologize and move on, as attempting to explain yourself to someone who finds something offensive is pointless).

I then went to my email to see if there was more information, only to find the same generic statement. It was very clear that there was no way for me to talk to anyone about it, review the log that was used to make the decision, nor was there a way to know who it was that did this "review" and made this decision to give my account a warning.

I have always been careful to keep my language and style of commentary when joking about in parties or alliances to the same level that NPCs in the game express themselves.

Instead, what I am given is a copy-paste email with NO explanation, NO chance for a conversation with the person who took this action, or any idea of why I'm suddenly being targeted for a complaint. I don't want to know who filed the complaint as I don't care, but I do think its important to give people a chance to talk about it. This is a punitive system with no due process and it is unfair. Not to mention the only fact given (the date that the supposed harassment occurred) was during a time I was asleep, and I hadn't logged in until the next evening.

What has me most frustrated, however, is the complete lack of ability to reach out to anyone to even get clarification. So now I am left with a feeling that it's best just not to say anything outside of "howdy" and "gg" anytime I'm interacting with anyone on this game...even when other people are having non-13-year-old conversations as randomly defined by whichever person gets a complaint.

The lack of consistency in the application of rules is an issue. The concept that "Well, it just matters on the person taking offense, but we'll review the comment in context" is clearly not what happened here, as far as I can tell.

this further proves that SE doesnt care about our American Amendments