Please remove Job restrictions from the Virtu Gear sets

[Misplaced_Marbles]

"Job identity" is meaningless on certain jobs for sure, since the sets look completely different, so you couldn't really tell they have anything to do with the job anyway. Some work better with that excuse but others do not.

[magitekLuna]

What is "just a simple box check"? Are you assuming they manually allow what can and can't be glamoured? I don't think it works that way.

As I understand it, the system determines whether a glamour displays through the logic: "You are wearing [X glamoured as Y]. Can you equip Y? Yes – display Y. No – display X."

Your ability to equip the gear controls whether the glamour appears or not. That's what keeps the job gear job-locked: even if you've glamoured your generic Armour of Fending to look like the Warrior's Armour, the check fails if you equip it to your paladin. The same logic stops you from being able to use anything on a role that can't use it, even if the appearance is less specific.

And ultimately, this is Yoshida's game. If it's his artistic vision that job gear remains locked, then I would rather accept that and look for other ways we might expand glamour access, without demanding the blanket unlock they seem unwilling or unable to do. Not because it wouldn't be nice to have, but because I think they are likely to keep saying no, but might say yes to expanding some aspects through other controlled routes like creating more replicas of specific sets.

It seems to me that they're willing to share around the less role-identity-based things, like the sky pirate gear, while keeping other styles more unique or only sharing them to select classes over time but not others.

Wow so nice if yoshi let people play his game for free...... Wait a moment we pay here
To be real now it's as easy as I make it sound.its just more that 1 box to check.

[Iscah]

Wow so nice if yoshi let people play his game for free...... Wait a moment we pay here
To be real now it's as easy as I make it sound.its just more that 1 box to check.

It's also very nice when creative people get paid for their creative work. We signed up to play his game because we like the thing he (and his team) created.

And again, what is this simple "box to check" that you're talking about? If you're imagining it's a setting – already there and ready to used – that lets a piece be glamoured without being equippable, why does it exist and yet not get used for a single piece of gear ever?

[Saimeren]

Unrelated perhaps, but this entire gear lore thing has sailed, when you have people out here doing leaps of faith in shorts, a white tee and knock off Addias (Buddies).

I think you have a skewed idea of what this games/franchises fantasy is.

Sure you have Elves, dragons and knights in full sets of armor running around wielding swords and axes.

But you also have mechs and cars and laser beam weapons.

You'll remember that Cid Highwind wore cargo pants, a t-shirt and denim jacket.

Squall wore jeans, a white t-shirt and a leather jacket.

It's not like this stuff hasn't been in the franchise for decades now.

You might only want the high fantasy aspect, but you can't deny that the modem/futuristic side is also there.

[technole]

You can tell who tends to be cutscene skippers or doesn't know job lore very well. I don't think things like the traditional white/red White Mage robe able to be worn on Scholar is going to fly. Power of nature versus war strategist won't jive with lore team.

[Saraide]

You can tell who tends to be cutscene skippers or doesn't know job lore very well. I don't think things like the traditional white/red White Mage robe able to be worn on Scholar is going to fly. Power of nature versus war strategist won't jive with lore team.

A party fully armored in the archfiend armor from the CC battle pass on the other hand is totally okay with the lore team.

[LordGiggles]

You can tell who tends to be cutscene skippers or doesn't know job lore very well. I don't think things like the traditional white/red White Mage robe able to be worn on Scholar is going to fly. Power of nature versus war strategist won't jive with lore team.

I don't think there's any reason a scholar couldn't wear a white and red robe? Why wouldn't that be fine? Glams are all just illusions anyway, I don't think the fairy cares that much about your fashion sense.

Jobs keeping a baseline "classic" look is a good enough reason to keep AF stuff locked, no need to try to force a lore thing when it's not present. There's really nothing in the cutscenes to skip for this topic.

[Tlamila]

I actually agree.
i get what people are saying with job identity, but really. There are soo many pretty AF sets and I'll never evr use any because I make glamors that all the users of that gear can use, not just one class. So if not unlocking them for all at least for all those that share the same gear? It also sucks when your classes get ugly sets while classes you don't play get nice, and to be honest pretty generic so not so unique, sets that would fit perfectly on other classes too.

And if we can cosplay the scions, why can't we cosplay another class?

[Strika23]

I don't think SE will ever do this. As fun as it might be to mix and match gear pieces from different AF sets, each class has their own unique look. Also I think it would interfere with incentive for people to level all their classes up if they could easily get level 1 artifact gear from other classes they haven't levelled? (Ex: I'm a level 90 Pally spamming PVP and collect gear for WHM, NIN etc. and equip it on my pally.

I'm assuming SE will keep re-modelling old AF gear as PVP gear with updated texture models. (as we currently got AF2 sets for this pvp phase). I think they will run into problems with Dancer, Sage, Reaper, and Gunbreaker as they only have 1-2 AF sets currently.

On a side note, I'd like to slap whoever is in charge of which pieces of the gear dye. So many of these new remodelled textures look amazing but dye like CRAP and have ugly base colours that don't dye. (Especially BLM and MCH).

I want a better dye system in this game. If I want to dye something, it doesn't mean a little strap here and there. I want to dye the ENTIRE piece. It boggles my brain how some sets dye perfectly (the metal, cloth, leather, straps etc. all dye the color you want with different undertones) while others barely dye at all (Level 90 PLD set, wtf!?). They should revamp the dye system to be similar to GW2 where you can pick the different colors of gear/undertones you want etc. Also they need to just make all gear in this game dyeable when they do the graphic update, there are so many good pieces of gear in this game that don't match because we can't dye it.

[Esmoire]

I am in the camp that wants this, but a significant enough number of people think the visual identity of jobs is too important that I would have to say it should stay exclusive. I understand where they are coming from, and endorse the importance of job iconography, even though I personally wish all AF armour could be equipped by anyone. I also think it is intellectually dishonest to point out stuff like swimwear or the archfiend stuff as making this any less important.