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  1. #11
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    Flaws's Avatar
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    Flaws Replicant
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I think that if they had fine control over some things being glamourable and others not, they might be more generous with it. But they can't do that in the current system with it being tangled up in equippability.
    I don't think we have any good reasons to believe that glamourability is tangled up in equippability. They made the decision for them to overlap intentionally years ago when they first implemented it in the game to restrict what players can and can't glam but that doesn't mean that they aren't separate systems in the code. Besides, even if they aren't, they can surely be separated if the devs are willing. The truth is that we don't know and we are only guessing here, which is why we need them to address it once again.
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    Last edited by Flaws; 06-28-2022 at 03:59 PM.
    Role glamour restrictions abolitionist! For more details and to help us spread the message:
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/455359-We-really-should-be-able-to-glamour-other-jobs-sets

  2. #12
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    Nia Niyah
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    Hyperion
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Job AF gear should be the only gear thats specific to a job
    Every other piece of gear in the entire game needs to be un-role locked for glamour, however
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  3. #13
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    magitekLuna's Avatar
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    Samsara Lunalight
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    Moogle
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Given that I suspect job gear might be exactly what is keeping them from wanting everything to be glamourable across jobs, I would expect that being level 1 is irrelevant.
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    How it's a reason? It's just yushi being "my way or nothing" it's not even a question of how long the work on this take. It a simple box check. You just don't change it on the job gear.
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  4. #14
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    Tatsuya Sarugaku
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    Moogle
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    Paladin Lv 90
    No for immersion, and while we're here remove glam items that dont fit jobs. Just say no to bikini tanks!
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  5. #15
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    Ulorin Ardor
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I'm all for it.
    The amount of times where I've thought I wish I could wear those boots instead of these that are kinda nice but have heels...
    I feel though if that would happen it would make the glamour system and its limited slots look even worse
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  6. #16
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    Kemi Epoc
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 82
    Just unrestrict all glamours. Even AF armor. I don't get the "job identity" argument for AF gear at this point. Maybe the first set for jobs are the iconic FF gear, but everything after really isn't. Not to mention we have several jobs now that are totally new to FFXIV. There's significant overlap and most AF gear is themed more towards the expansion itself rather than some nebulous concept of job identity.

    As far as I know the major roadblock to this atm is YoshiP himself. He's been asked about it before and was very much against it. Amusingly enough FFXI allows this and the sky, in fact, did not fall.

    I don't believe there are any technical limitations they couldn't resolve if they were given the greenlight.
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    Last edited by Arzalis; 06-28-2022 at 06:44 PM.

  7. #17
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    magitekLuna's Avatar
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    Samsara Lunalight
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    No for immersion, and while we're here remove glam items that dont fit jobs. Just say no to bikini tanks!
    What immersion? The one you want or one I want? Even now you can wear lots of things that will show non of it.
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  8. #18
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by lolicon09 View Post
    If we're going to get recolored Item Level 1 versions of already existing Artifact Gear sets, at least turn them into something any Class/Job can wear. Same for all other Item Level 1 gear sets already available in the Wolves' Den Pier. Since they have no stats, there's no point on having restrictions on them
    I'm a huge supporter of everything being All Classes when it comes to glamourability... But not the artifact sets, because they are actually the only collection of items that actually make sense to be restricted, given they are iconic job identities.
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  9. #19
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    nah I'm all for removing glam restriction on stuff but virtu/AF gear should stay on there respected Jobs
    as much as i want to wear the lvl 80 MCH helm on GNB id much rather Job gear stays unique
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  10. #20
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by magitekLuna View Post
    How it's a reason? It's just yushi being "my way or nothing" it's not even a question of how long the work on this take. It a simple box check. You just don't change it on the job gear.
    What is "just a simple box check"? Are you assuming they manually allow what can and can't be glamoured? I don't think it works that way.

    As I understand it, the system determines whether a glamour displays through the logic: "You are wearing [X glamoured as Y]. Can you equip Y? Yes – display Y. No – display X."

    Your ability to equip the gear controls whether the glamour appears or not. That's what keeps the job gear job-locked: even if you've glamoured your generic Armour of Fending to look like the Warrior's Armour, the check fails if you equip it to your paladin. The same logic stops you from being able to use anything on a role that can't use it, even if the appearance is less specific.

    And ultimately, this is Yoshida's game. If it's his artistic vision that job gear remains locked, then I would rather accept that and look for other ways we might expand glamour access, without demanding the blanket unlock they seem unwilling or unable to do. Not because it wouldn't be nice to have, but because I think they are likely to keep saying no, but might say yes to expanding some aspects through other controlled routes like creating more replicas of specific sets.

    It seems to me that they're willing to share around the less role-identity-based things, like the sky pirate gear, while keeping other styles more unique or only sharing them to select classes over time but not others.
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