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    VentVanitas's Avatar
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    Seiko Hanamura
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    "Sorry if you liked a gameplay style that no longer exists in the game now, tough luck bastard go play something else"

    I'm sorry that getting ghosts from Egi Assault traumatized you so deeply that SMN had to be entirely lobotomized of all player/skill expression.
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by pikalovr View Post
    except they could've actually make a good functioning pet system it's been done before. i loved PSO2s pet job combat and it would actually promote picking and choosing 3 seperate eikons/primals to cycle between instead of just here's ifrit garuda and titan for 90 levels :^). bahamut and phoenix could even stay as big boi can't change summons
    I know nothing of that game, but I imagine combat is vastly different from how it is here, a lot simpler I'd guess. Even Duty Support AI can only handle so much.

    More options would be nice, perhaps filling out all the elements. Maybe some day.
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    Garten Rei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    But it looks pretty...
    Can you pls tell me where does your signature comes from? I Always wonder when i see It xD (Is It a movie? A TV series?)
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garten View Post
    Can you pls tell me where does your signature comes from? I Always wonder when i see It xD (Is It a movie? A TV series?)
    Avengers Infinity War (Or Avengers Endgame I forget)
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I know nothing of that game, but I imagine combat is vastly different from how it is here, a lot simpler I'd guess. Even Duty Support AI can only handle so much.

    More options would be nice, perhaps filling out all the elements. Maybe some day.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMO3...nnel=Evancross an endgame DPS trial using only one pet (alot of summoners do this since you can upgrade and alter each pet seperately the pet "system" itself is actually quite indepth but i'm talking purely how it works combat wise cause there's no way we're getting that indepth of a pet system for FFXIV)

    https://youtu.be/mR6xYbxMtlk?t=701 an old summoner guide for the global release already at teh point he talks about the combat swapping pets using secondary skills to buff them the pets and how they function etc... (we were quite a bit behind JP on launch so this is similar to basically 1.0 combat)

    we also could have alot of pets on our person at once and swap freely between them so it's not that big of a stretch to just make them forced summons for set periods especially since we only get like 3 abilities with each summon regardless
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    Dahlinea Thriss
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Sure, there could be room for improvement, but it works way better than it did before 6.0. So it's not for you. Oh well. Over a dozen other options exist.
    Ah yes, and let's forget there was a whole playerbase of old SMNs out there that liked the more complex gameplay style. Totally fair with them turning SMN into a toddler's toy for no reason in the process of reworking it...
    Also, why change jobs to something else? To keep worrying about when that job will get shafted by the devs too?
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    Last edited by Dahlinea; 06-26-2022 at 09:31 PM.

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    Gisela Thorne
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    They really could take a job like BLM and turn it into 1 button spam job with a 30s dot and these people would still come out of the woodwork to praise how much smoother it plays with all that unnecessary jank removed, wouldn't they? And try to guilt trip every player who enjoyed BLM for trying to ruin their fun, gosh why can't you just play something else.
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  8. #18
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahlinea View Post
    Ah yes, and let's forget there was a whole playerbase of old SMNs out there that liked the more complex gameplay style. Totally fair with them turning SMN into a toddler's toy for no reason in the process of reworking it...
    Also, why change jobs to something else? To keep worrying about when that job will get shafted by the devs too?
    I remember hearing how it was and that actually drew me towards the game. What I arrived to was not that. Oh well... What I did find was a job that was definitely broken and in need of fixing. Agree to disagree. What's done is done. Maybe think about how this can be improved instead of holding on to the past like it can ever be reclaimed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    They really could take a job like BLM and turn it into 1 button spam job with a 30s dot and these people would still come out of the woodwork to praise how much smoother it plays with all that unnecessary jank removed, wouldn't they? And try to guilt trip every player who enjoyed BLM for trying to ruin their fun, gosh why can't you just play something else.
    BLM is fine. It works. You worry too much.
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    Fenris Pendragon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I remember hearing how it was and that actually drew me towards the game. What I arrived to was not that. Oh well... What I did find was a job that was definitely broken and in need of fixing. Agree to disagree. What's done is done. Maybe think about how this can be improved instead of holding on to the past like it can ever be reclaimed.
    Basically this. The job needed fixes and got them 8 years too late. There are a number of logical solutions that can resolve both the levelling experience and the endgame experience but none of them involve going back in time to what was widely considered an atrocious job - that Summoners themselves were the loudest ones complaining about.
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