What is something you want REMOVED from the game?

[Euphares]

The thing is, they're really not. over an entire fight, those numbers add up, someone with zero positionals will deal way less damage than someone who properly hit all of em. this varies by job, of course, but I dislike how they made it so practically every job in endwalker has two positionals, monk is especially aggravating since it went from *the* job for people who liked positionals to... having less than Dragoon of all jobs. it's frustrating how people want one of the few things that makes melee dps unique (but not by much) removed

Positionals are a dumb concept and there's a reason why WoW removed most of theirs.


The DPS has 0 agency in some cases and there are fights where landing them requires the entire party to adjust (E9S.)


The devs have been slowly phasing them out of the game for a reason, I don't even think they like them.



The only time I found positionals interesting is if they are on big cooldowns like Trick Attack where missing them punishes you a fair bit, but even then you could just save True North for it but at least there would be some oomph to them. Currently they feel very flat and boring.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Positionals are fake complexity at best and pointless busywork at worst, and I wouldn't miss them at all.

[Kolsykol]

Positionals are fake complexity at best and pointless busywork at worst, and I wouldn't miss them at all.

I don't really agree at all in more difficult content, but in most content it's probably true.
In Savage tho I enjoy figuring out when to True North for uptime, I feel like it's a nice form of skill expression.

Edit: There are some that feels thematically strange tho.
Why is Demolish a rear positional for example on MNK?

I think Aeolian Edge on NIN makes sense, sneaky NIN attacking from behind just makes thematic sense.
Visually tho it could be a bit more '' backstabbey ''.

[Shurrikhan]

Positionals are a dumb concept and there's a reason why WoW removed most of theirs.

Ah, yes, down from positionals only on Backstab, Gouge, Ambush, and Shred to... Backstab, Gouge, and Shred. While that may be a difference of 25%, it's also a difference of... just one ability.

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Positionals are fake complexity at best and pointless busywork at worst, and I wouldn't miss them at all.

Admittedly, the way mob turning works, atop the game's sluggish poll rates, is not conducive to positionals. Surrounding design since Stormblood has also done about everything in the devs power to make them unexciting.

We no longer adjust our rotations in order to manage positionals over key moments in encounters; there's just True North for that, allowing bloat buttons to replace rotational nuance (now nearly impossible for most jobs anyways due to melee rotations' reduced modularity). There's more automated boss movement by which to end up with ill-timed spins for which no positional could reliably land, however prepositioned. There are sometimes fewer tells as to where the boss will turn next to perform its attacks. The timing for which boss facing lingers after completing a cast has become less consistent. Etc., etc.

But are those issues with positionals themselves, or merely a worsening of context?

Positionals at their core do just two things:

• They had necessary button presses / stick movement, essentially apm (just without being accounted for in the likes of fflogs since the site can't tell when you would have needed to move anyways or what forms a discrete movement).
• They further narrow what it means to be at the 'right' place at the right time, which in turn offers variable complexity.

That's it. They're apm without button cost and they form a sort of Tetris-like win condition that can offer depth/nuance through surrounding systems. Their complexity, while greatly diminished over the years, is not fake, and their added business is no more pointless than hitting your frequent but middling oGCDs.

If you don't like anything adding to your apm, then you probably won't like positionals. If you refuse to claw grip and/or don't like switching between stick and face-buttons/DPad on your controller, you probably won't like positionals. But, those who like higher apm, especially without having to spend further button counts discretely on them, or enjoy intersecting systems, variable priorities, and the like, tend to like them.

[Themarvin]

I also want removed... bad design in dungeons for pulling mobs.. especially for going wall to wall.. how they are placed in modern dungeons... as they spawn in and the likes... is just bad design for anything speed alligned... I can't be the only tank that find it annoying that actually have to be stalled to get them all.

[MithEuthel]

Novice Network... that place is a pure cancer

[rance-sama]

Streamers.

[SenorPatty]

Well at this point...everything.

BAN.EVERY.THING.

Kill the mmo stuff, kill all the sidequests. Scions of the seventh dawn? More like scions of NOTHING.

Kill the forums.

Delete player characters

Ban all the players.

Kill all the maps

Kill the story.

Return all to nothing.

Pure void.





EDIT: BAN THE VOID TOO.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Well at this point...everything.

BAN.EVERY.THING.

Kill the mmo stuff, kill all the sidequests. Scions of the seventh dawn? More like scions of NOTHING.

Kill the forums.

Delete player characters

Ban all the players.

Kill all the maps

Kill the story.

Return all to nothing.

Pure void.





EDIT: BAN THE VOID TOO.

Found Fandaniel.

(Ban Fandaniel.)

(Bandaniel.)

[Shurrikhan]

Our content creators/influencers

They do a poor job representing some areas and aspects of the community and often influence the game to go in directions we don't like for the sake of their publicity and fame. They have the closet influencer power to Yoshi P for us and are partly responsible for the state in which the game is currently in. We need less Keyboard Twitter Warriors representing us and better reps.

You say that like removing X will somehow produce Y in its place.

So, you get rid of the Zeplas, Xenos, Chairs, Lucys, MrHappys, etc. Now... Wait, no, that's the end of it.

They're simply gone, and at most discourse remains a bit less narrowed, though that also means it gets less clarified, developed, or sophisticated. The lack of content creators / influencers would in no way give rise to Square spending a cent more on community reps.