Who knew the 6.15 Omega Quests… (Spoilers)

[SentioftheHoukai]

Actually many like it. It's just a few who tend to as you said interpret things in such a negative and visceral way. That many a thread gets derailed into them showing how much they dislike a decision made by a character that after awhile it gets back to nitpicking at the smallest granule. Only to have the rest back the others up using so similar phrasing you'd think they were only doing so in order to lessen any alt accusation. But hey its just a game and no one should care about if you like or dislike a bunch of pixels right? As long as both sides can air out why they might have chosen the first, last or a specific person it should all be dandy and if there's a disagreement you should just agree to disagree. But uh don't worry they don't really dislike the character just the choice(s) they made. Even though they haven't been fans of said character since 3.2 and for some even longer than that cause we can't have benevolent gods in a JRPG, am I right? Especially after we proved that the Catholic Church stand in was actually evil.

I mean, if nothing else you'll surely never mean ME with that little not nearly as subtle dig as you thought. Seeing as how I'm as far from a male Hyur as is possible and don't intend to change. But alts, amirite? Thordan's a bit of a lazy pick btw, nobody with any sense doubted he was precisely what they framed him as, and would end as such antagonists inevitably do. Ofc, I thought it was odd they'd give him a motivation as sympathetic as "I know Nidhogg and his Brood won't stop until we're all dead, should we just lay down our arms and die son mine?" and then just make him primal-zilla with little fanfare. Gave us a little taste of the future treatment of sympathetic villains though, to be sure.

There's very little that is 'benevolent' about inflicting genocide upon one's own species. That aside, threads related to Venat would not be 'derailed' if not for the bizarre insistence that everybody 'has' to like and agree with the character in question.

Yeah, uh. I always wonder how low some posters opinions of other's intelligence must be if they truly believe some posters can't sus out how "Lacking reading comprehension" or "Didn't understand the plot" basically boils down to "I think you're pretty stupid, here's why the Essay mk. XXXVVIII" even if they don't say as much ad verbatim. Another facet of the dangers of passive-aggressiveness on the forums, though that's another matter.

[EaraGrace]

As for the Fates, multiverse theory exists for a reason.

Sucks that the many worlds theorem is deterministic and would be more compatible with the Fates than other theories.

Assuming that what the Fates say go is just indolent, it's no better than submitting to Zeus because he said so and allowing him to have his way with you. Are we supposed to just "trust them?" They have repeatedly fucked people over because it was either convenient or because it led to the outcome they preferred, and damn all the "worthy sacrifices" that unfortunately had to be permitted on the way to this grand vision of the ideal future. Naturally these sacrifices are typically families just looking to survive another day in relative comfort, how sinister of them. If the comparison reeks of another example that just "knows best and we should trust them to guide our path forward", well that was intentional and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

Oh Twelve I regret making an off handed comment about the Fates.

He's a creation of Hydaelyn. I don't recall a single one of them not thinking she's the bestest ever. I wouldn't call it lazy as much as accurate. I would certainly disagree with any assessment that he's not biased in her favor at a bare minimum.

Also, you don't have to remove agency from Emet and Elidibus, the time loop already did that.

A creation based on the personality and memories of a person who lived in the past. There’s nothing to suggest he felt any differently.

And honestly that’s about the only way to justify what they did. I don’t even agree with that theory and it’s still the closest thing to making them defensible.

[SannaR]

I mean, if nothing else you'll surely never mean ME with that little not nearly as subtle dig as you thought. Seeing as how I'm as far from a male Hyur as is possible and don't intend to change. But alts, amirite? Thordan's a bit of a lazy pick btw, nobody with any sense doubted he was precisely what they framed him as, and would end as such antagonists inevitably do. Ofc, I thought it was odd they'd give him a motivation as sympathetic as "I know Nidhogg and his Brood won't stop until we're all dead, should we just lay down our arms and die son mine?" and then just make him primal-zilla with little fanfare. Gave us a little taste of the future treatment of sympathetic villains though, to be sure[/I].

You an alt of the suggested poster? No. Thordan didn't just want to end the Dragonsong war though. He wanted to end the war and then also bring the whole world under the Ishgardian banner. I actually had hopes that he wasn't exactly the way he ended up. Or that he had one of the Heavensward killed cause they weren't 100% on board with the kind of behavior the Ward got up to when not in the eye of the public. Replacing him with a guy who must have failed at becoming a dragoon with how high he jumped in order to dodge bullets as a caster. I only brought it up as the whole religion and or the church is highly corrupt at times shows up in the same media where you later find out that God is also bad and needs to be put down. This was the going thought of a few even before the 3.2 artwork was shown and just grew before we learned that Hydelean wasn't God but a Primal.

That you must not trust her and that she must be bad, right? I mean she can't be 100% good or good but have a flaw or two. Like the Goddess Etro from FF XIII, or Altana from XI. Where they cared about mortals and a choice they made ended up having some really bad consequences. Now those who were suspicious of her back then never outright stated that she must be due to already having the corrupt church trope show up, but man did they hint that was part of their reasoning.