Who knew the 6.15 Omega Quests… (Spoilers)

[Rulakir]

“This dude is just a simp” is quite frankly such a lazy way to read into the Watcher. Remove any autonomy and just assume their down bad. That certainly makes analysis easy, I should start doing that with Elidibus and Emet!

He's a creation of Hydaelyn. I don't recall a single one of them not thinking she's the bestest ever. I wouldn't call it lazy as much as accurate. I would certainly disagree with any assessment that he's not biased in her favor at a bare minimum.

Also, you don't have to remove agency from Emet and Elidibus, the time loop already did that.

I just happen to see a lot more dissatisfaction with it here than I do on, say, Twitter (which knowing Twitter is kind of ironic).

Word's been getting around that the forums are the only place where you can discuss EW critically, so I'm not surprised.

But to use Eara's own past words, when all who oppose you are consistently using bad-faith arguments and generally acting rather nasty why even bother with the trivialities and "nice masks" as it were.

The unfortunate conclusion we all arrive at eventually.

[Slatersev]

He's a creation of Hydaelyn. I don't recall a single one of them not thinking she's the bestest ever. I wouldn't call it lazy as much as accurate. I would certainly disagree with any assessment that he's not biased in her favor at a bare minimum.

Also, you don't have to remove agency from Emet and Elidibus, the time loop already did that.



Word's been getting around that the forums are the only place where you can discuss EW critically, so I'm not surprised.



The unfortunate conclusion we all arrive at eventually.

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The Watcher goes out of his way to tell Omega it should come up with his own conclusions on the matter:

Its funny, for as much as this thread claims the Watcher is to biased in his stance to be trusted, he's explicitly fine with people coming to there own conclusions and in fact encourages it and doesn't go out of his way to force his own opinion on anyone.

It's extra funny when posters here keep talking about the writers writing "propaganda" because they decided it was to nice to one fictional character over the other.

Some pretty poor "propaganda" going on there, where what would logically be the most biased person in the setting being totally fine with disagreement and actively telling others to come to there own conclusions. And not getting in any way defensive of finger waggy if you directly lay it on his creator.

[Iscah]

Also, you don't have to remove agency from Emet and Elidibus, the time loop already did that.

They haven't lost agency at all. It's still their own actions and decisions that will create the future, even if somebody else knows what will happen. Unless Hydaelyn is manipulating their every move, they are still in control of what they do.

The only person robbed of agency by the time loop is Venat herself, because she remembers what we told her and now apparently feels she has to make decisions based on what she has been told must happen, like deliberately letting the few Unsundered avoid the spell.